Hi All,

Been pondering this - after a brief conversation with a friend. Also someone (unrelated to Homeopathy) asked me this as well, so thought I'd post here and see what others have been taught and what they have deduced for themselves.

Given that we are meant to pro-create/reproduce (talking along base primal lines) - if a person is homosexual, can that be construed in any way to be a natural urge? Is Homosexuality natural?
Is it a sign/symptom?

I have many possibilities I'm throwing around in my head, but I am setting aside any personal views, moral thoughts, beliefs, etc to examine this in depth. Please, no Politcally Correct rants - (I'll reveal my views later if it matters to anyone...not that it does, or it should, really) infused with emotional stuff...just want to hear what others have been taught and how they've come to view it - esp if it differs from what they were taught in Hom. School/College.

Sincerely,
Lisa

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This is a really tough one (difficult to really look at in any objective sword of way because it is infused with so many passionate and personal belief systems as to "why")

But you bring up a VERY valid point. Since the natural scheme of totality (or natural law) dictates that we procreate, etc.. (and there may be some scathing emails in response to the hint that homosexuality could be against natural law - That's not what I'm saying), then why is it that roughly 10% of the population is gay? (some claim even that more than 10% is gay and we just don't know about it)

It may be natures balancing act. Perhaps there is an over-population control mechanism that nature enacts in certain times, places, situations where over-procreation would be hindrance at that particular time.

Perhaps nature (for reasons uncomprehensible to us at this time) does not intend for that individual to procreate. Perhaps that individaul would pass severely damaged stock into the gene pool. Or perhaps that individual would pass overly evolved and exceedingly dynamic traits into the gene pool that would unbalance natural evolution)

Who knows???

How could you determine if homosexualtiy is a symptom? Have an EXCELLENT Homeopath(s) take the case of 500 gay men and 500 gay woman. Prescribe the appropriate remedies (constitutional and otherwise), then follow these men and woman for 15 years as they are being treated homeopathically. Then see who has ceased to be homosexual.

Will it be 0? Will it 10? Will it be 742?

Who knows. I don't.

I'd like to hear what everyone else has to say about it.

Some people "know" that it is not a symptom. And some people "know" that is a symptom - a disharmony, an imbalance.

I look forward to hearing what the learned men and woman of the forum have to say about this topic.

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Hi Lisa,

It is normal and natural for a homosexual person to be homosexual. This, of course, is my personal viewpoint based as it is on real life experience.

Homosexual people can and do procreate if they have a 'natural' urge to do so. The fact that many do not wish to be biological parents is no more a genetic/biological/psychological defect than it is for heterosexual people who do not have any desire to be biological parents. Where is it suggested in our human evolution that EVERY person MUST reproduce for survival of our species?Old Testament Judea does not span or translate to the entire history of civilization. But I'm sure there will always be those who insist on literal translations as their version of the one and only truth.

I appreciate your question (as always) because it reminds me of how 'homosexuality' was portrayed in college lectures, basically as something that may be reversed with the right remedy, unless it was genetic! I believe these lecturers resorted to the tired, old Nature versus Nurture idea because they held a position of prejudice from the outset, which basically states that you become homosexual because something BAD happened, and therefore being gay is a negative consequence.

Surely, as practitioners, our role is to listen to what the patient complains about without such obvious moral bias. Homosexual people live ordinary lives, with the same full range of human experiences, with the same human relationship issues, that confront everyone.

Was it Martin Luther King who said something along the lines of looking foward to the day when a man would be judged on his character and not on the colour of his skin? I believe this could be equally applied to all kinds of people. As far as homoeopathy is concerned, we are better off using our powers of discernment (not judgement) to perceive what are the real issues in somebody's sickness and not force moral projections AND UNDOUBTEDLY THE WRONG REMEDY on to the patient in the misguided belief that everyone is better off hetersexual.

There was an article in the atlantic monthly a few years ago about a medical researcher who had an inkling that homeosexuality followed all the modus operandi for a virus(I imagine a retrovirus...as has been suggested in schizophrenia or virus' leading to heart disease). Because of its political incorrectnesss...he had a hard time getting funding. I'm sorry I can't tell you his name. I'm sure some internet research would come up with that information.

Dear Lisa,

I recently listened to a case conference tape in which, after given the correct remedy, the patient--a female-- began a healthy relationship with a woman (after being previously in relationships with men). I'm sorry I can't remember anything else about the case, but, I thought this was very instructive!

When you think about it, sexuality really isn't divided into homosexual/heterosexual at all. Sexuality is a spectrum with all kinds of proclivities marking the way--some truly disgusting, like heterosexual males who are attracted to young boys; men who have sex with animals....I won't go on! The array of behaviors is endless; but we acknowledge only 2--heterosexual and homosexual, with the presumption that one is healthy and the other is not. It needs to be re-thought.

Snoopy

Hallo to all
this question has not formed part of the diseses I treated over the years, and usually, i don,t care about the sexual behaviour of my patients.
if this behaviour has become a problem, we talk about it, but it has not formed an indication for or against any remedy.
A similar thing would be a religious believe, or beeing part of a political party, or living in a relationship/ single.
i shy away from the thought of wanting to change someones character or believe with homeopathic remedies and would view this atempt (treatment of/by mental pictures)as moraly very critical. (brainwashing?)

hans weitbrecht
homeopath

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Wow, some very very good points have been raised for me to ponder, consider, digest . Thanks everyone.

I'll reply after Christmas with more of my thoughts and questions.

In the meantime, have a Happy Christmas - and Happy Hannukah..

Lisa

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There exists rubrics in Synthesis mind section 'Homosexuality'; also 'Confusion, identity as to, sexual;'and a few other related rubrics.

So Platina is in bold type for 'homosexuality' and if you look at Chronic Diseases, Allens Handbook of MM,(but can't find my MM Pura right now to check it), that aspect is not listed for Platina.

Clarkes MM lists 'fear of men'.
Kent in his lectures says of Platina; 'Takes on insanity; becomes a sexual pervert, utters unchaste speech and trembles.'
Vermeulen Concordant MM says 'Love sick with one of her own sex.'

Then going back to Synthesis, check the references for Platina under Mind, homosexuality; you can see (1)Gallavardin, Jean Pierre: Psychisme et Homeopathie; (2) Kent, James Tyler: Kent's personal additions to his Repertory.

Personaly I wouldn't touch a rubric like this.
Louise.

Dear Lisa, I can understand why you asked this with reference to the rubrics Louise mentions.
Snoopy's answer is illuminating, citing the case of a woman who expressed lesbianism after treatment. I know of a person who moved in the other direction.
My personal opinion is that homoeopathy helps people to express themselves more fully, since it makes them more well, and liberates them for their higher purpose. This could include expressing their sexuality more fully, which could be hetero- or homo- sexual.

Dear Lisa, I can understand why you asked this with reference to the rubrics Louise mentions.
Snoopy's answer is illuminating, citing the case of a woman who expressed lesbianism after treatment. I know of a person who moved in the other direction.
My personal opinion is that homoeopathy helps people to express themselves more fully, since it makes them more well, and liberates them for their higher purpose. This could include expressing their sexuality more fully, which could be hetero- or homo- sexual.