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Old 21st December 2001, 01:52 PM
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Hi,

I notice that I've been getting a variety of little skin protruberances: tags, moles, tiny red bumps. They are on my torso or upper thighs. It seems as though they've increased in amount since I've been on Thuja the last month and a half. Someone told me it was just aging, I'll be 48 soon.

Could there be any connection? The Thuja seems to be working for me, mood-wise. It seems funny to me that there is such a variety of types. I do have a connective tissue disease since childhood which has a skin manifestation but it is not tags.

I will bring this up at my next appointment but wondered what you think.

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Old 21st December 2001, 02:38 PM
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Dear Contenta,

Where you been, girl? How's the Professor doing? Well, as to your question, I know it's upsetting to have these things popping out on your skin, but really, on the right remedy, we expect this to happen, it's as if the internal disturbance is now moving outward from inward, consistant with your feelings of improved mood on the inside. When someone only improves on the surface and the inside stays the same or gets worse, we worry that we've given the wrong remedy.

Congratulations on finding a remedy that works!

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Old 21st December 2001, 04:29 PM
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Hi Contenta,
Had been thinking about you lately, so was delighted to see you are still checking in.

Snoopy, if Thuja brought tags and moles to the surface would you expect they will disappear on their own eventually?
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Old 21st December 2001, 09:40 PM
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Dear Snoopy and gpm,

So nice to 'hear your voices' again.

I like what you had to say Snoopy, but, having just read that Thuja actually is for these sorts of things, I have a question. I'm wondering if I could possibly be proving the remedy. This comes from my limited knowledge of homeo., but, would skin tags, ect. showing up be like an aggravation? If so, aren't aggravations supposed to last only a few days to a week?

I hope it is true that this is a good thing because - and as I mentioned it got me right out of a slump - if Thuja is unraveling the condition I have it would be incredible.

The professor is doing okay. He makes plenty of use of the Neurologist's generous colleagues and nurses. He calls them all the time. It has made him less anxious, a little calmer.

Unfortunately, in late january he will begin Novontrone treaments. It is chemo, given for the purpose of challenging his immune system since MS is considered an auto-immune disease. Imagine, his immune system is supposedly overactive so their idea is to weaken it. This is a guy who can barely walk down the block as it is. The stupidity just boggles the mind. It is his decision though. Maybe enough time has passed that I can suggest homeopathy again. I'll give it a try. The Plb was so amazing.

I hope you are both well and enjoying the holidays. Gpm, my niece just did a compositon for her first grade class. They were supposed to write about the most important person in their lives. Hers was titled "What I Learned From My Gerbil." I thought you might appreciate that.

Take care,
Contenta
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Old 21st December 2001, 09:48 PM
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Contenta - Hidee Ho! Glad Thuja is making such a difference for ya.

Have you ever heard of a product (not homeopathic) called MODUCARE? It is a plant sterol and sterolin based product that is supposed to balance the immune system. So for people with auto immune diseases it "tones down" the reactivity of teh immune sytem whereas someone whose system needs a boost it'll strengthen it.

Anyway, the info I have is not from personal experience so I can't speak for the product but it may be worth checking out for the Prof. I believe it can be easily purchased at any health food store.

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An aggravation is a worsening of something you already have. Also, you can go back through old symptoms from the past on the correct remedy.
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Dear Contenta,

Wow, you've gotten a lot of responses! I too wondered if you were having a proving, but the point is that if you have experienced improvement on the mental/emotional level, then it is the right remedy, and we don't worry about accessory proving symptoms--if that's what they are. That just means that the remedy was given in a higher potency than was necessary. If you were taking a low daily potency, I would say, Okay let's take this remedy less often. But if you've taken one dose high, then all you need to know is that you've got the right remedy and that's the important thing.

Like I said before, getting the right remedy often means that skin eruptions will appear. They should clear up eventually, but will probably be the last symptoms to leave. Even proving symptoms should disappear at some point.

I wish I could say for sure why the skin eruptions are there and when they'll leave, but I can only say that when the body receives the right remedy, it has it's own agenda in terms of healing and you just have to trust that it knows what it's doing.

This chemo therapy trial the Professor is about to embark on--another brilliant idea of modern medicine--if you can possibly convince him to try homeopathy first, remember it was the 12C potency that worked. The 200 never did work, did it?

Be sure and tell us what your homeopath says about the moles and skin tags.

Thanks for checking in,
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Hi Contenta

I am gonna get kicked off here for recommending so many nonhomeopathic products but here goes...

There is another vitamin/herbal drink distributed by RELIV -there are lots of websites regarding it- anyway I know some folks with MS claim to have had miraculous results and if you get hooked up with a distributor they will put you in contact with people who have the same problems you have and who have benefited using the product.

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A remedy should not be producing new symptoms. While it is true moving a disease onto the skin is one of the signs of good direction of cure, the symptoms that come back still should be old ones.

I had a patient come to me for headaches and depression who had been to see a homoeopath in England some 2 years previous. She was given a remedy that got rid of the headaches, but produced psoriasis and eczema, neither of which she had ever had before. These symptoms remained for 2 years, then the headaches came back, on top of these new skin conditions!

This was not direction of cure. The headaches simply got moved around. The remedy I prescribed solved all the symptoms, and brought back on old (non-skin) symptom for a few weeks.

Some skin conditions are so generalised that patients often can't remember having them.If the patient feels better in themselves, then I guess you have to assume the direction is correct. But new symptoms should not arise from a remedy if it is the similimum - that is the definition of a proving - which may happen also from too much of a good remedy.
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I'm with David. My gut instinct and experience tell me that this might be a proving. And it's possible to get some alleviation from the wrong remedy, but the appearance of new symptoms and these don't sound like mere accessory symptoms to me. Thuja is the primary anti-sycotic and sycosis produces excressences on the skin such as moles, etc. Sometimes suppressions and palliations are mistaken for cure but if the direction isn't correct and new symptoms are forming, look out. A case can become disordered with the wrong remedies, esp. if it isn't caught in time .
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