Dear Merl,

If you start taking Conium 6C in water, succussed, right now,
by next week, the pap test may prove to be negative.
I've read that conium will change pap test results in an incredibly short time.

First of all, they say that Conium is often the remedy that follows Nat-mur., or that nat-murs often go into conium.

Conium is a major cancer remedy, and the primary remedy in uterine, cervical, breast, brain and prostate cancer.

Right now, Merl, you need a remedy for the effects of bad news! How are you feeling? Weak and shaky? Take Gelsemium 30C in water, succussed, as needed. Do you feel emotional and out of control? Try Ignatia.

At the very worst, let me say this. My sister-in-law just had a hysterectomy because of uterine cancer, and she's back to work and leading a normal life. My brother had a bladder tumor removed a couple of years ago, and he's fine and going right on with his life. Also, luckily, the uterus is a totally expendable organ, and who's gonna notice it's gone? We have remedies to make the surgery run smoothly--and the recovery. Right now, deal with the shock of the bad news. Don't worry, homeopathy's got every contingency covered!

Let us know how you're feeling.

Love,
Snoopy

Merl,

I'm not sure I was clear in my post above, so I'll restate it: If conium is the right remedy, and odds are it is, you may not need the surgery at all. I hope you can get a hold of it soon.

Snoopy

Hi Snoopy (and thanks so much gpm.people like you make all the difference, ya know.)

How I'm feeling right now is very sad. Lots of different parts of my body are sending signals that they never have before. I have a headache right now from crying. I'm getting small sharp pains over my (L) kidney. Like twinges of pain, really. Also occasionally same sort of thing in a breast(don't remember where). I've been having trouble with no appetite for about a week. (even foods I usually crave hold no attraction for me)
Lots of strange feelings all over my abdomen, from my ribs on down.

I'll try to get the remedies you suggested tomorrow at a local store.

They discovered this throught uterine biopsy, not a pap smear. I don't even know if they'd have time to retest.

I'm not so worried about the uterine cancer. More worried about it spreading or having already spread.

Thanks so much for you help and kind thoughts.

Merl

Dear Merl,

With the crying and headache from crying, etc., I would go with Ignatia 30C in water, shake/succuss before each dose, take as needed.

Hopefully you will be able to get conium without having to send for it overnight mail.

Robin Murphy's cancer seminars on-tape might help you because they're very optimistic and they'll show you what homeopathy can do, along with herbs and diet. You can get them at www.minimum.com

If you decide not to postpone the surgery, the remedies would be Phosphorus for any discomfort from the anasthesia, Bellis Perennis for pain after the surgery (Bellis is the "Arnica" for the deeper tissues.) A dose of Calendula 200 before and after surgery will prevent a lot of problems, like surgical shock and pain. I have in my notes that Calendula is more powerful than morphine, so, have it in a bottle, use succussions, and sip as needed. Causticum if there's urinary retention. Carbo veg or Arnica for gas.

For now, take Ignatia.

Talk to ya later,
Snoopy

[ 20 April 2002, 06:24: Message edited by: Snoopy ]

dear merl, i am sorry to read this news. i have been following your posts without contributing because i was not sure i could be of use to you.

at this point i would like you to read lisa annan's topic [from about 3 weeks ago] about breast cancer which broadened out into cancer treatment in general. some useful things were stated there.

it concerns me that your homoeopathic treatment to date, ie repeated doses of nat mur causing emotional improvment and physcial worsening, *might have brought on or hastened the onset of cancer. i do not like the sound of what your homoeopath has in mind ref higher potency of nat mur.
you did not mention how the uterine biopsy came to be taken - ie what symptoms led to that test being done. if the relevant symptoms only came on since you took nat mur, i would think nat mur did you some harm, either bringing on the condition or hastening its onset.
on the other hand if the symptoms that led to biopsy have been with you from a time predating your taking nat mur, then most likely the nat mur didn't contribute much or at all.

if you want to continue with homoeopathy, please have homoeopaths here recommend to you someone who really knows what they are doing [there must be someone in NY i would think], rather than continue with the current homoeopath.

i hope you can find a good homoeopath to help you.

if i could be of any help answering your questions you are welcome to send a private message.

Dear Anna,

Thank you for saying that. I too was wondering about this homeopath, because normally a person on the correct remedy has a higher resistance and is in better health in general because of homeopathy, but I think we've seen a lot of examples of Wild West prescribing on the BB, such as Contenta's account of how she receives a new high potency remedy almost every month when she goes in for follow-up.

I for one would recommend Laurence Galante who is the former head of the Atlantic Academy of Homeopathy in NY, who is also a yoga, tai chi and
chi kung instructor, and has a web site if only I could remember it, but he's in NY--in a couple of locations, as I remember, besides NYC. It will come back to me, but yes, I too was concerned about the homeopath.

Snoopy

Here it is:

www.holistic-arts.com

(212)414-1266
Lawrence@holistic-arts.com

And I spelled his name wrong, it's Lawrence.

Snoopy

[ 20 April 2002, 15:09: Message edited by: Snoopy ]

Dear Snoopy,
Thank you for all of the "play by play" remedies for the time surrounding the surgery. I'm going now to try to get the conium & some bottled water for the ignatia. I checked out the site of the homeopath that you recommended. As far as I can see, he is only in NYC (and Zurich). That 's three very stressful hours from here.Right now I cannot imagine making that trip, but I may feel differently as time passes and I'm a little less shakey.

Dear Anna,

I very much appreciate your input. Thank you.
I read Lisa Annan's Thread. (except for gpm's link which was too hard for me to read right now. I only got about 4 pages of that read. will continue later.)

About my history...I began seeing my homeopath in July 2001 specifically because of excessive menstrual bleeding(both in quantity and duration. I was bleeding almost constantly, at that point. Sometimes the bleeding would stop of a few weeks, then it would return for many weeks.). I would say that this pattern has not changed over the course of my treatment.

I had a uterine biopsy on Aug 7th which was negative. I was supposed to schedule a follow up biopsy for 3 months later. Since I felt that my constitutional would set my body right again (including my reproductive system) and since I felt for a long time(certainly way past the three month point) that my constitutional had not been discovered, I chose to postpone the second biopsy. I finally had this done about 10 days ago , with this unwelcome result.

I am confused about the success of the treatment I am receiving from my homeopath. On one hand it seems that if the treatment is correct, I should be having some progress on my physical symptoms. I would say that none of my physical symptoms are changed.

On the other hand, since September (when I had a horrible bout of respiratory symptoms with fever) I seem to be immune to acutes. No flu, no strep throat, no colds. I have been exposed to all of the above. Before Sept. I got everything that I was exposed to and it knocked me out for days. I actually still have evidence of my body being exposed to acutes but fighting them off. What happens now is that I start with a feeling in my throat as if I'm getting a cold. I used to think I was coming down with something for sure. But, alas, the next day I'd be fine. This happened many times. The last time I actually did get cold symptoms for two hours , two days in a row.

Also, last July I was told (after x-ray) that an abscessed tooth needed a root canal. Again I put this off to see what my constitutional might accomplish instead. This month the dentist reports that the tooth is fine. (two different dentists warned me that the problem would not go away and that root canal would eventually be necessary).

So , what am I to believe about Nat Mur? Is it working slowly and deeply as my homeopath suggests? I e-mailed her yesterday when I got the news but haven't yet heard from her.

Thanks again for your caring support and all of the information you provide.

Merl

Dear Merl,

I wish only three things for you:

That you will find a sound homeopath who is experienced and can truly help you.

That you will truly understand what was talked about in my thread; understand that when something is cut out/away - it WILL find another way to express itself (ref Han's input on that, by example of a case he kindly posted).

And I wish that the result of this understanding will allow you to see this ailment as any other ailment; as an expression of the VF that something isn't right (just as with any other sx) - i.e. don't be scared by the "C" word - and scared into treatment modalities that do NOT work and often are to the detriments of patients.

NB I found a lump recently and after observing my friend's case firsthand (and still observing it as it is still ongoing) I have NO intention of any biopsy --- as I believe that in itself sets off a series of reactions in the organism. (my friend's lump wasn't doing anything - i.e. growing - until after the biopsies, at which point it exploded in growth very rapidly - at a frightening rate, and the docs used this to scare the hell outta her). Now she has had the lump removed - another lump near that one removed which turned out not to be 'cancerous'- and 26 lymph nodes. She said to me recently that she is only now starting the 'real battle' (she is full of regret over her surgery - esp the lymph nodes -because these 'expressions' of disease were removed. It is dawning on her - a bit late, sadly).

I'm praying for you to have clarity of mind; for fear to be removed; and to have peace in making your decisions.

Blessings and best, warmest wishes - lots of love,
Lisa

[ 20 April 2002, 19:22: Message edited by: LisaAnnan ]

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Hi Merl,
Kathy posted this in another thread - and I thought it relevant:

Bold type mine .

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