I have had quite a time trying to get clarity on cell salts. Here is what I have found from looking over the internet for info (trying not to bug you all too much... but alas here I am again!) ne source said a cell salt would be any homeopathic remedy (of same name as Schuessler's 12 cell salts, eg. ferrum phos, Kali Mur) that is 6X .THat if it is diluted more than that it isn't a cell salt any longer.

Now, others say NO NO NO... It must be ground dry and not titrated at all, That the preparation determines whether it is a cell salt.

I found a place locally that sells the Hyland brand cell salt. on the bottle it says "compounded according to the biochemic theory of Dr. W H schuessler." I called Hyland Homeopathic Remedies and their pharmacist is to call me back in an hour or two. THe person who answered the phone said they make all their cell salts the same way they make all other homeopathic remedies..

Now, I thought that cell salts are not "homeopathic" in the strict sense. so I am back to being confused.

Have found another source for ordering the "Schuessler" cell salts (web searching again) and am waiting for a return call from them as well.

Any one want to fill me in on what a cell salt really is?

How is its making different than a homeopathic remedy, if at all?

Do they come in potencies other than 6X? (The site that sells the "Schuessler" cell salts sells them in these potencies: "Schuessler cell salts- Ferrum Phosphoricum:3x-30x, 3c-30c, 100c, 200c, 1m, 10m, 50m, 100m" )

Thanks ever so much once more,
JW
p.s. having fun with the tongue twister:
She sells Schuessler Cell salts by the sea shore.

Cell salts differ in the fact that they are not succussed (banged on a book, according to Hahnermann principles)between dilutions.

Justyn W,
I am not here to answer your question.
But let's think it about.Wish someone
sophisticated to illustrate.

Biochemic salts are postulated that composing
human tissue .Involved in the repair and regeneration of the body,William H.Schuessler stated it is essential to provide the body with materials used in its own synthesis,and which are essential not only for health and vigour but also for the manifestation of life.This view is controversial and never been proved.
But the question is,since it is widely used
in homeopathy world,not in the principle of
'LIKE CURE LIKE',but as a supplement.
DrL.L.Daftriof Nagpur who wrote"Bodily Reactions and Examination of Systems of Therapeutics" was also very famous as a physician in Biochemic system of MEdicine. He found that the 12 biochemic remedies seldom effective to cure diseases as there are generally multiple deficiences of tissue salts in most of the patients.
For examples:
1/Arthritis---C.S.3X M.P.3 X ,N.M.3X,N.P.12X
2/Cataract---C.F.3X,K.M.3X,N.M.3X,K.P.3X
3/Headache---C.P.3X,M.P.3X,N.P.3X,N.S.3X,
F.P.12X,K.M.3X,N.M.3X,Sil.12X.
Obviously,it is something heresy in the view
of Classical homeoapthy.But I would like to know how biochemic salts 'provings'.And
playing so important roles in Materia Medica.
Is Table salts(N.M.)---- cure like cure?

Rochelle,
I noticed your post twice with this:
Cell salts (in low potency),need not
succusion or not potentised.Is it right.
But I do read that Cells salts are made
just the way of homeopathy remedies.
Will someone commend at this or make it
clear?

Cell salts are made the same way as homeopathic remedies except they are NOT succussed. That is the difference. I hope that this is now clear.
Regards, Rochelle

[This message has been edited by Rochelle (edited 28 June 1999).]

Sorry, Rochelle, I beg to differ. If cell salts are not succussed, then they musty be triturated, which Hahnemann says is another form of succsussion. Otherwise the designation cannot be 6X 12X 30X etc. Factually, the homoeopathic literature is full of such triturations, but what makes a remedy homoeopathic is not the succussion, but the similarity to the totality of symptoms. Schuessler's descriptions are useful but can by no means approach the depth of the homoeopathic provings. So for the application of the cellsalts, it is not necessary to match the totality of symptoms, at least according to Schiessler, who relied on chemcal tests for prescription. And yes, they are often used in combinations, which is heresy to classical homoeopaths like myself only, when it is pretended that they are given as homoeopathic medicines. First of all homoeopathy does not use mixtures, otherwie it is not homoeopathy, it is mixopathy. secondly, a compound like ferrum phos, is sed in homoeopathy and is prepared also by trituration, before it is succussed in a liquid in which it has been dissolved. As many tissue salts do not become soluble before the 6X trituration, and as many are also used by homoeopaths in those potencies, we cannot say that they are not succussed. When the 6X is dissolved in liquid, this forms the homoeopathic mother timncture. (Homoeopathic pharmacopoeia published in Calcutta). I don't have this book in front of me so I cannot give you the name of the writer and the exact quote, but I will do so next time.In homoeopathic circles, the succussion and the trituration are seen as of equal value,as both are brought up to the 6X. In the technical semnse they may not be slammed on a book, as Ivonne says, but the 6X designation is in the practical sense the same for both succussion and trituration. compounds are not considered mixopathy, because the compound has been made in the crudse, before either trituration or succussion. Thus a remedy made from the mixture of diverse plants of say the same family, or with similar acting alcaloids, when mixed in the crude and then succussed or triturated cannot be considered a so-called 'complex' remedy, because from that mixed mother tincture a completely new remedy has been created. With this remedy we can then conduct a proving, which will display its very own set of symptom totality. Hahnemann did this, not with plants, but with elements, soem of which cannot make compounds, such as Hepar sulph, and Causticum. Thus he laid the foundation of many new remedies prepared in the same way, if only the homoeopaths would develop them. Hope this has satisfied all you queries.

Thanks for the information. I have never seen tituration compared to sucussion before. Interesting!

Rochelle, Boericke's MM is full of it - he recommends the 2nd and 3d trit. many times. Hahnemann says in the Organon that dried herbs should first be triturated before a tincture should be made.(last lines of footnote 143 to par 267. footnote 146 to par269and footnote 147 to par 269 Organon) Especially the alst is very clear about dynamising the remedy. "In the same way will triturating a medicinal substance, as well as shaking of its solution (dynamising, potentisation) develop the medicinal powers hidden within and manifest them more and more or if one may say so, spiritualises the medicinal substance itself."

OK maybe I misunderstand the whole thing. Let me explain to you that tituration to me means using a pestle and mortar to grind the mineral with lactose until it can be dissolved. This is especially relevent with metals. Also there is the specific scraping the sides down and regrinding. From that have I got the whole thing wrong? If not I do not understand what a 2nd and 3rd tituation can possibly mean. In Boericke I have taken these to mean the tissue salts. Please explain.

These footnotes does not exist in 6 organon.
§269 clearly states grinding.......!
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