Hi All:

I have observed some homeopaths following the below mentioned methodology in prescribing homeopathic remedies & would like your views.

Type 1: Remedy X 200C, single dose for three consecutive days.

Type 2: Remedy X, 200C first day, 1M of same remedy the next day.

Also I have observed high potencies being recommended for acute cases.

If I understand correctly, under classical homeopathy, we are required to take minimum dosage...then why give the same remedy for three consecutive days or higher potency of the same remedy the next day. I am trying to understand the rational behind & appreciate your input. I would like to know if this methodology is incorrect.

This way of prescribing has been observed by me being practised by few homeopaths in India where Homeopathy is very strong & popular. I don't know if the same methods are used in general by all the homeopaths there.

Also, if anybody knows the difference between the homeopathic pharmacopea of the US compared with other European or Asian countries....why different?

Thanks for sharing your knowledge, expertise or opinion/comments.

Regards,
Rajan

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Dear Rajan,

Unfortunately, most homeopaths play fast and loose with high potencies, preferring to start every chronic case high, with the idea that they're going to deliver the knock-out punch to the disease once and for all! Hahnemann was against this prescribing method. The gentle cure is what his 6th and last edition of the Organon was dedicated to.

You've noticed the way an Orthodontist tightens the braces on the teeth ever-so-slightly at each visit so that the teeth are straightened slowly and gradually over a period of 6 months to a year?
This is what homeopathic prescribing should be--slow and steady; otherwise, we cause tremendous aggravations or provings which may take days or weeks to wear off, and in the end, many times, the patient is no better, and possibly worse off than before.

A chronic case should begin with a low potency repeated daily and going up in potency only as the lower one wears off.

High potencies should be reserved for intense flare-ups, acutes, injuries, pains, sudden occurences, etc. Here you're meeting force with force. Chronic conditions on the other hand, tend to be slow and plodding and beg for less energetic responses.

Of course there are exceptions; this is just my--and Hahnemann's--approach in general.

Snoopy

Hi Snoopy,

I'm not so sure that to start a chronic case with a lower potency and repeat daily and then going up in potency as the lower one wears off was Hahnemann's general approach in the treatment of chronic diseases. I personally have found this method has the potential to produce too many accessory symptoms in the patient, thus slowing down the cure. Perhaps your experience is different.

In 1828 Hahnemann was using 30C to begin many of his cases and suggested LOWERING the potency as the case proceeded.

In the 1840's he did begin to raise his potencies as the case progressed. He raised his Centesimal potencies like 197C, 198C, 199C and his LM potencies from 0/1 to 0/30. The Paris casebooks show this was his practise with what were his higher dilutions. At the same time he still preferred to lower the degrees of his lower potencies through 30C, 24C 12C and 6C.

So, upward in potency when using high.
Downward in potency when using lower. He was certainly open-minded with his experimentation.

Dear Snoopy, Chris:

Thank you very much for your input.

I would request others also to share their prescribing methods for chronic conditions. I understand every case is different, but I am just trying to get a general feel of the methods used by the homeopaths...& their views.

Regards,
Rajan

Hi Snoopy,

You wrote:
"...this last edition of the Organon was not published until all the great homeopaths of the last century were dead--they never read Hahnemann's last work, and we are all influenced them."

This isn't accurate, Snoopy. Boenninghausen knew ALL about the 6th edition and Hahnemann's use of LM's, but Melanie asked him not to reveal its contents. Being the gentleman he was he said nothing, except little references here and there in his private corresponcences.

Paragraphs 129 and 161 of the Organon have been pointed out to us. Is this in reference to the 6th ed?

If so, don't these paragraphs relate to LM or Q potencies only?

What then does the relevant edition of the Organon say about the C potency and ascending scale?

Just curious.

Also, paragraph 129 seems to be about dose, not potency, referring to the number of "globules" required to elicit an effect on the patient.

And in 161 he appears to be talking about increasing the dose but with alteration in the dynamization and refers us to paragraph 247, where it relates to succussion 8, 10 or 12 times of a solution from which the patient has taken several doses.

Perhaps someone can elaborate further for me? Are dose and potency the same thing?

I thought dose was the number of spoonfuls to be taken between each dynamization in relation to LM or Q potencies? (i.e. number of pills in C potencies). Perhaps I am wrong. If so, could someone please enlighten me?

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Dear Rajan,

I've quoted these paragraphs of the Organon so many times on the BB that I should have them memorized by now; still, it never seems to register with anybody, but perhaps something has to be restated many times before it sinks in, so, here we go again:

Paragraph 129 of the Organon says that some people are very sensitive to medicines--meaning that they can be made sick by them--and that you have no way of knowing who these people are; you can't tell by their seeming strength, Hahnemann says. Therefore, he states, "...it is highly advisable to start with a small dose of medicine for everybody and, where appropriate and necessary, increase it from day to day."

In paragraph 161, he states unambiguously that in chronic disease, no "so-called homeopathic aggravation" should be permitted to occur. He says that an aggravation will not occur if the remedy is "administered in appropriately small doses, which are only gradually increased...."

There are many such allusions in the Organon to the gentle cure, but still, the overwhelming majority of homeopaths seem to overlook Hahnemann's words, because this last edition of the Organon was not published until all the great homeopaths of the last century were dead--they never read Hahnemann's last work, and we are all influenced them. So, without getting involved in any more detail, that's the long and short of it.

Snoopy

We have had this discussion before!! I tend to prescribe a split dose 200C or 1M - single dose as a constitutional remedy and wait. In the case of Carcinosin which I give a lot to get rid of this miasm I give 30, 200, 1M in 24 hours as I have found that the agg . I was getting with the 30 and the 200 on their own doesn't occur!!

If someone is on a lot of allopathic medication I may give a 30 , one a day for 5 days to push it in. Alcoholics and mental and emotional cases need high prescribing IMO .

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Dear Rajan,

Type 1: It is thought to be working better in this way. Fisrt dose to start action Second will retard its action and a Third will enhance its action. Quite unHahnemanian way to treat. Even three consective doses of the remedy in a day is also practiced.

Let us see what comes out of Snoopy, Cris G. and Simone's discussion.

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Hallo simone
par.:129 is nearly identical in the 5th and 6th ed. and relates to C-potencies. Q-potencies are not useful for provings.
Par.: 161, 6th ed&gt;:Q-potencies
Par.: 161, 5th ed.=c-potencies

Hans Weitbrecht
homeopath

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