WHat is the difference in the "essence" between Med and Thuja - they seem quite similar.

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Hi Barb,

Thuja is more ashamed and more secretive and trying to fit in. Medorrhinum is rather shameless and acts out with abandon. Has extremes of behavior, staying out til all hours, sex drugs and rock and roll, you get the idea.

Snoopy

Thanks loopy snoopy :razz:

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Don't mention it!

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David Kempson.<br />Dip.Homoeopathic Medicine.<br />Lecturer Australian College of Natural Therapies (Brisbane Campus)<br />Member AHA, AROH, HMA<br />Member Australian Homoeopathic Association. Member#0442.

These two remedies represent a particular aspect of the sycotic miasm (guilt/covering up), but express it in very different ways.

Thuja is about covering up something bad in themselves. They feel they are bad people, and create an impervious image to hide it. They will appear on the surface to be normal, nice, honest, moral people, but they themselves sense that underneath they are exactly the opposite. Thuja people must hide socially unacceptable aspects of themselves - frequently relating to sexuality. They have often been made to feel that there is something wrong with them that must never be exposed to other people, or they will be rejected and outcast. They feel ugly, in a moral or behavioural way more than physical, although it can be expressed as physical ugliness too. HUGE amounts of energy goes into maintaining this image, and they may feel like they are two people, or living two lives. I have often used this remedy for homosexual men who are living a heterosexual lifestyle, often in positions of moral responisibility - priests, teachers, coaches etc.

Medorrhinum has no such focus on image. They may feel guilty, like someone who has done something very bad and must one day pay for it. But they tend to run away from these feelings, by indulging excessively in food, alcohol, drugs, sex or gambling. They find it hard to control their feelings, and are often hyper-emotional - anxiety, anger, fear - their emotions are very intense. They experience everything too strongly - love, hate, jealousy, joy. They tend to enmesh themselves in relationships, almost joining their identity to the person they love (Calc-phos does this too). Control is a problem for them - they cannot control their feelings, they fear losing control of their lives, they cannot control their cravings or their addictions. They are overly sensitive, but may compensate for this by becoming quite selfish. They are one of the remedies that experiences prophetic dreams, dreams which actually come true, and they often correctly sense events before they happen, although usually bad things. They are highly sexual and may experience great guilt over this.

The two remedies present very different emotional pictures.

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David Kempson.<br />Dip.Homoeopathic Medicine.<br />Lecturer Australian College of Natural Therapies (Brisbane Campus)<br />Member AHA, AROH, HMA<br />Member Australian Homoeopathic Association. Member#0442.

Thanks for the expansive explanation, David. Well done.

Snoopy

David - just the info I was looking for.

Warm thanks

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Man, do not pride yourself on your superiority to animals. For they are without sin and you in your greatness defile the earth by your appearance on it and leave traces of you foulness after you. Dostoyevsky

One more thing about these two remedies, is that Thuja is much more concerned with what Society can do to them, while Med is concerned about what God or the Spirits can do to them. Med fears going to hell, Thuja fears losing their image and position in the world.

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David Kempson.<br />Dip.Homoeopathic Medicine.<br />Lecturer Australian College of Natural Therapies (Brisbane Campus)<br />Member AHA, AROH, HMA<br />Member Australian Homoeopathic Association. Member#0442.