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Old 26th January 2004, 09:33 PM
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One of the doctor who also runs a pharmacy named as "IQRA" sent an email to me. He said there is no standard protocol of manufacturing potency. Different pharmacies are using different techniques. These pharmacies are playing games with the homeopathic doctors as they don't have the idea which methods or techniques or machines these pharmacies are using.

He said few pharmacies are using radionic computer for making potency and labelling them as homeopathy. Doctors have never visited those pharmcies. or atleast pharmacy owner are not showing how they are making a cm potency.

One of the point which also made me confuse was how can they rinse so many bottles or same machine for making new potency each time.

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Few pharmacies are using centrifugal machines for making potencies. Is it equal to applying jerk for making potency.

Recently we (doctors) from all over punjab province visited one of the renowned pharmacy of Pakistan that is also ISO-9001 certified.

The pharmacy is preparing hand made potency by using Jerk Method. A doctor asked a question to Dr. MAS whether we can use centrifugal machine for obtaining the same result as applying 10 jerk to a potency. He said "No" The principle of the centrifugal machine is different as compare to applying the jerk to glass bottle. The detail is available at

http://www.communitypk.com/cpk/
http://www.communitypk.com/cpk/kamal.htm
http://www.pbase.com/klab


What is your opinion on centrifugal process for making potency? Which methods are adopting other world pharmacies. Is there any similarity between these methods or everybody has its own opinion?
The question is genuine and needs your immediate attention... I am also visiting here for the same purpose.

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Old 26th January 2004, 11:56 PM
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Well, there are quite a few laboratories which are quite open and eager to show you their production methods. You could always limit your dealings to labs whose methods of production you can trust.

No need to continue to do business with suppliers who claim to produce homeopathic remedies, but don't really produce them at all.
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Hi Nasim Homeopath,

I have experience of working as scientific research officer in pharmacies.

For consenses, if I ask you to prepare nat-mure potency then which table salt you will prefer to use?

1. Table salt extracted or prepared from marine water (having marine water impurities)
2. Table salt from mines (having mines impurities)
3. Table salt further refined and granulated in factories. (addition of other chemicals like iodine etc)
4. Table salt from Merck having 99. 99999999 percent pure (Very costly 1 k.g is approx 30 dollars)

Which table salt was used in proving natrium muriaticum. Is there any consenses on it?
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I think, the proving of nat mur was conducted on common table salt which has impurities.
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The original production of potencies of Nat Mur was carried out by lighthouse keepers round the coast of the UK , under the supervision of Dr Compton Burnett. Details are not given but I would be amazed if it was other than sea salt.
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Since most homeopaths consistently report successful treatments, it would seem that the production method is not critical at all.

Or, have I misunderstood something?

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I think you're basically correct Hans. However, the best methods seem to produce remedies that are more potent. For example, a Kentian prepared remedy of a given potency seems to be more consistant than a Korsikov prepared remedy, and properly hand prepared remedies appear to be most potent of all. But even remedies prepared using an inferior method, as long as they start with the pure substance and are not contaminated, do work.
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Now a days, extensive research is going on, on Homoeopathic Pharmacy.
World is changing every day, so we have to move with the world in a sencible way.

I am very thankful to Dr. MAS and his collegues who are giving the examples of Kamal Laoratories.

There are different ways of raising the potencies, but we have to follow the standards which are in the Homoeopathic Pharmacopoeias.
Homoeopathic Phamacopoeia of United States (HPUS) which is being used by all popular pharmaceuticals of the world has defined two ways of making the potencies:

1) Hanemanian
2) Korsokovian

Hanemanina method is little bit expensive because for every potency separate sterlised vial is used but in Korsokovian method only single sterlised vial is used.

The most important is adoption of perfect method.

By the grace of Almighty Allah, Kamal has purchased K-Tronic Potentiser. Now it is easier to prepare a back potency for CM with in ten days by using 300 liters of diselled water. It prepares 199 potency with in 25 minutes.

Before purchasing this latest equipment two of our members went to Belgium and study the whole process of this machine which is exactly related as potencies made through hand. Their website address is www.labotics.be

I would like to invite all the members to come and visit again to see the working of this wonderful machine.
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Infact Kamal Laboratories is first in Pakistan and 2nd in Asia who got this Machine. It is being used by world renowned homoeopathic pharmaceuticals.

I have sent the picture through email to Dr. MAS. I request him to paste it with the other pictures on the website which is mentioned.

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We have reputed pharmacies in India/Mumbai where the methods of preparation have been exmained and approved of. Also the clinical effectiveness of their remedies is proven.
So buying from one of these pharmacies is the best.
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