otherhealth.com  

Go Back   otherhealth.com > Homeopathy > Homeopathy Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 5th November 2001, 02:44 AM
Member
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Florida
Posts: 78
somer
Post

My husaband has been having trouble with his back acting up around the shoulder blade area. It flares up once or twice a month and then goes away as mysteriously as it comes. Let me try and give some background.

He is 24 year old who has had no major illnesses in his life. He has rarely seen the doctor, although he has had all of his vaccinations as a child. He is very active in his job and it causes physical strain (having to lift large machines). He is a "one tract mind" type of person and is not especially a people person. He has a problem with attitude when he is tired (worst than most) but is a good guy when he is rested. He has a tendancy to joke inappropriately and rudely, although he means no harm, most of the time. There is not much to say about his health except that he heals VERY quickly when wounded and he was diagnosed with ADD when he was a child. He was kicked out of many schools before they figured it out. He still shows signs of the same "behavioral" problems he had as a child, but on a slighter scale. I feel that the lot of his problems in his back have to do with stress and how he does not get over his anger, but rather dwells on it (holds grudges). There is always someone who is in the doghouse according to him. He won't admit to it, but stress is a big part of his life and most of it is self induced. If I can present this to him as a remedy to help his back, then maybe we can overcome the other stuff on the sly. Advice very welcome here.
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 5th November 2001, 03:18 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: India
Posts: 2,419
doctorleela is an unknown quantity at this point
Send a message via ICQ to doctorleela Send a message via AIM to doctorleela
Post

Somer,
YOu'll have to explain a little more wbout his anger and how he deals with it or expresses it, what are the things that make him angry.

Then also what his relationships are like, persp distribution, food cravings and aversions, thermal state.

Also specific modalities for his backache.

Regards,
doctorleela
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 6th November 2001, 04:25 AM
Member
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Florida
Posts: 78
somer
Post

Anything can make him angry. Any word about him being wrong is a surefire way to start it. He hates to be critiqued whether it is constructive or not. He is not the typical guy that jokes with other guys by cracking with them. He dishes it but can't take it. He gets mad at our son for doing the same things he does. They have a similar personality base and it annoys him because he can't see that he is the same way. My son "can't hear" when you ask him something, but my husband does the same thing(those kind of things). He gets angry when he is driving, if someone doesn't pay enough attention to him, if they pay too much attention to him, if he is asked to do something or not to do something, etc.. As you can see I could go on for forever. The finer points are based around his personal character. If you tell him another way to do something or you tell him that something he is doing hurts you, he gets mad because you are telling him what to do. It makes him angry when I ask to be intimate with him. I am a very active person in that department and he used to "keep up with me" but now he would rather not for weeks, even months, at a time. If I ask for it he gets angry and says that I am bugging him, even when I only ask once.

As for food, he likes junk. Chips, cookies, cake, MEATS!!!!!, cheeses, everything that would make a vegetarian cringe. He wants the "down home cooking" of bacon and eggs or panfried steaks. He is turned off by healthy subtitutes like ground turkey. He does like veggies and some natural stuff, but mostly that fatty stuff. He has a cast-iron stomach and tolerates everything except for poultry (he gets diarrhea). He is a smoker that has tried quitting many times without success. He has struggled with alcohol for at least 6-7 years. He is not a consistant drinker now but he can't regulate himself when it is put in front of him.

He has an allergy to anti-histamines, they make him hyper.

His back can get sore at any time. he has certain times of the month, a lot like a woman, to where he is more tense and he ends up injuring himself. It is sometimes in the lower back, but usually between the shoulder blades. It is so sore that he can't sleep, he walks funny, and he refuses to let me rub it out. He takes Aleve and uses Flexall 44 but it only lessens it a bit. He has a lot of stress at work emotionally because he pulls the load of three guys and no one is willing to help. That bothers him a lot and then he usually hurts himself. He may not be paying attention to what he is doing, but that is not really like him. He has fallen flat on his back when he was about 15 playing basketball and has had this off and on ever since when he gets stressed. He doesn't feel it is related, but it is too coincidental.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 6th November 2001, 04:34 AM
Member
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Florida
Posts: 78
somer
Post

I forgot that you asked about relationships. I told you pretty much with me. He is a huggy guy and he has a tender heart, but is afraid to care about someone more than himself. His world revolves around him and he is out for number one in every situation (including with me). He is angry and holds grudges with his family because he feels he was short-changed as a kid. He did not have a very healthy childhood. He can't let things go when someone does something that offends him. He would rather write someone off then to work things out. He has friends that walk on him and he is usually a follower. He is not someone who will smile and say hi if he doesn't know you. He has a wonderful relationship with his daughter, but the personalities butting with his son builds a wall. He doesn't get heartbroken when his son cries for him and he ignores because he got on his nerves. This aspect worries me for my son more than for him, but that is another story. He is a very old fashioned person and like those down home values. He is intollerant and impatient for most situations. He runs away from conflict and is angry if you stress the importance of working things out. No one is worth his time.

I think that is everything. If I missed anything in my rambling, let me know.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 6th November 2001, 07:19 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 1999
Location: UK
Posts: 431
Pat Davis
Send a message via Yahoo to Pat Davis
Post

Sounds like a sociopathic personality to me
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 6th November 2001, 01:05 PM
Divina's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: southern ontario, canada
Posts: 1,310
Divina is an unknown quantity at this point
Post

Sounds like a very typical, highly tempered young man who is a little self-centred, if you ask me. Definitely NOT a sociopath (just look up the definition in a medical dictionary, and you'll see this person just isn't a "sociopath"), but somewhat immature and in need of some self confidence and self acceptance. Not unusual for men his age, really--his character's a little weak because no one's bothered to teach him what he needs to become stronger.

That being said, I want to make a couple of suggestions, if your husband does indeed want to seek out homeopathic treatment:

(though you should understand, your husband would benefit immensely from an in person consultation with a classical homeopath who could "see" the whole picture more clearly than its shown here).


"is 24 year old who has had no major illnesses in his life.
Okay--what about his family's health history? What do you know about them, in terms of diseases, etc.

"He is very active in his job and it causes physical strain (having to lift large machines)."

What does he do? What does he think of his job--does he like it? Is he fulfilled there? Is there a kind of future he envisions for himself in his work there? What about it does he like? What would he ideally like to be doing?


"He is a "one tract mind" type of person"

Please explain this. What do you mean by this phrase? Is this how he would describe himself? If so, would you ask him why he would describe himself this way, please. If its not how he would describe himself, how would he describe himself?

"He has a problem with attitude when he is tired (worst than most) but is a good guy when he is rested."

Please be more clear here and provide examples. What, exactly, does he do when he is tired? What does he do when he is rested?


"He has a tendancy to joke inappropriately and rudely, although he means no harm, most of the time."

Please explain this. What do you mean by "inappropriately"? What does "although he means no harm, most of the time" mean? Give an example of what you mean when you think "he means harm", and how you perceived this behaviour according to this description.

"There is not much to say about his health except that he heals VERY quickly when wounded and he was diagnosed with ADD when he was a child. He was kicked out of many schools before they figured it out. He still shows signs of the same "behavioral" problems he had as a child, but on a slighter scale."

Please be specific here. What "behavioural"
problems are you talking about? Do they still exist? How often does he exhibit them?


"There is always someone who is in the doghouse according to him."

Please be more specific here and more descriptive. Give us an example--tell us who is in the "doghouse" now, and why, according to your husband.

Specific questions about the primary complaint:

Where is the pain located exactly? Ask your husband to describe the experience of the pain--for example, what does it feel "like"? Like someone punching him there? Like a knife cutting in at the spot? A sharp pain? A dull pain?
Does the pain remain in one spot? Does movement/rest/motions/activity make is better/worse? If so, what movements/rest/motion/activity does what? Is it better/worse with cold/hot applications or temperature environments?

When exactly do the pains occur? When was the first occurence? Is there an apparent pattern? What is it? Is there a physical activity which always brings it on...example overwork from lifting too much?

Are there any other things that go along with the back pain--eg, back pain with inability to sleep, or back pain with diarrhea, etc.--looking for concommitant symptoms that accompany the back pain when it flares up.

You'll also want to detail--what are food cravings, and aversions...in particular, ones that you notice during the back pain flare-ups or during an acute illness of any kind (eg. when some people are sick with the flu, they really want hot lemonade or gingerale...some really strongly desire ice cream and feel better from whatever they're suffering when they have it)

Tell more about the "friends who walk all over him" you mention below, please.

This is just an idea of the kind of information you'd need to give here, just to give people a sense of what might be a good remedy for your husband. I want to stress, too, that he really needs to want to be treated--perhaps you should suggest seeing a homeopath to him, and finding some background information for him to read so that he knows what's involved with treatment. If you are looking for a quickfix solution to "him", you are not going to find it with homeopathy or anything else. Rather than taking that route, I would suggest you make efforts to change yourself--either with homeopathy, or with some other method which will allow you to grow and flourish. Then, he will have to follow suit. Remember, he's still a very young man by your detailing--and he'll need to learn from people around him if he's going to become a better and stronger person. You can't "change" him, you can only change yourself and hope that he will rise to the challenge that a stronger and more positive "you" will present him with.

Divina
__________________
...and deliverance has many faces<br />but grace<br />is an aquaintance of mine
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 6th November 2001, 11:18 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Brisbane, Qld,Australia
Posts: 608
DavidJK
Post

Somer,

have you retried the Kali-iod that worked so well the first time with your husband?
__________________
David Kempson.<br />Dip.Homoeopathic Medicine.<br />Lecturer Australian College of Natural Therapies (Brisbane Campus)<br />Member AHA, AROH, HMA<br />Member Australian Homoeopathic Association. Member#0442.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 7th November 2001, 01:30 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: India
Posts: 2,419
doctorleela is an unknown quantity at this point
Send a message via ICQ to doctorleela Send a message via AIM to doctorleela
Post

HI David,
I think Kali Iod is a good suggestion. Definitely sounds like his constitutional from the above info.

Somer,
Constitutionals don't always change unless there is a shift in the patients personality or physical generals. If Kali Iod worked before, I relly think it may be the remedy.

Warm regards
doctorleela
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 7th November 2001, 04:22 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Gaya Bihar India
Posts: 198
pksinha
Send a message via ICQ to pksinha
Post

dear somer
is there any history of tubrculosis to your husband or his parents or any of family member
__________________
Dr.P.K.Sinha
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 7th November 2001, 10:33 PM
Member
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Florida
Posts: 78
somer
Post

I'm right there with ya! I called an will put an order in tomorrow with the supplier I use. My husband isn't interested in speaking here on his own accord, unfortunately, but I will make sure that you will get the most efficient update I can muster up.

There has been no TB in the family history. There is Parkinson's( his father and grandfather), colon cancer (father and grandmother), diabetes and thyroid problems (on his mom's side).

I will get the kali-iod in about 2 weeks at the max, so I will let you know what happens. Keep an eye out in the next week with an update.

By the way, thanks DKempson. I remembered what you had suggested before, and that is why I called the order company today.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Back pain - differentiating remedies LisaAnnan Homeopathy Discussion 10 29th September 2003 01:23 PM
Headache/Neck Pain & Allergies Rajan Homeopathy Discussion 16 24th February 2001 06:58 PM
looking for proving lisanewlin Homeopathy Discussion 30 1st February 2001 01:02 AM
Back pain Trilce Alcorta Homeopathy Discussion 17 12th December 2000 07:46 PM


All times are GMT. The time now is 05:40 AM.



The information contained on OtherHealth.com arises by way of discussion between contributors and should not be treated as a substitute for the advice provided by your own personal physician or other health care professional. None of the contributions on this site are an endorsement by the site owners of any particular product, or a recommendation as to how to treat any particular disease or health-related condition. If you suspect you have a disease or health-related condition of any kind, you should contact your own health care professional immediately. Please read the BB Rules for further details.
Please consult personally with your own health care professional before starting any diet, exercise, supplementation or medication program.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.3.2
Copyright © 2009 otherhealth.com