Hi Jonh,
Hi Carol and anyone else having trouble with their browsers loading pages,

I have once again, uninstalled Netscape. I restarted my computer. I ran Norton to make sure all files were gone. And cache, temp files, history, etc were cleaned out!!

I went into Windows Explorer and deleted the Nestcape folder so ALL files - even old bookmarks (grrr, this is a pain to redo later!!!), cookies -preferences, user settings, etc were deleted. For a clean start.

I then restarted my computer again.

I STILL couldn't load those pages I referenced before (Jonh). I see WHEN the advert begins to load - THIS is when the page/logo becomes distorted - and then the browser (netscape) says the page is 'done'. So, I'm left with a garbled logo of Homeopathyhome on the top/left and the Post New Topic (with the other small toggles below that) on the top/right. And nothing on the rest of the page. It is blank.

I hit reload/refresh page. Same thing. OR it only loads a picture of the advert OR a toggle image.

If I reload the entry link to the Discussion forum page FROM the main home page (which has NO problem loading) and then navigate thru by right/clicking on links to load the discussion forum page - I only get a gif. image page - which is a picture of whatever advert is coming up on any given hit.

So, then I tried to surf with Internet Explorer (which I hate) - and I had no problem loading ALL pages.

It seems this new update is fine with IE but not with Netscape.

Again, I HATE IE. It is less secure than Netscape - and I would prefer NOT to use IE just so I can visit this site.

Please, Jonh, please please investigate why one can indeed navigate without any problems on your site with IE but cannot seem to navigate with Netscape.

It would be greatly appreciated.
Lisa

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Just an update on the situation.

I downloaded the upgraded Netscape (version 6) and I can now access all with no problems.

It would be interesting to know why version 4.73 couldn't access or version 4.76 for that matter - as I had no other problems with those versions and was used to them.

The newest version is very different and now have to learn how to use all 'stuff' that comes with it...but looking on the bright side - it may turn out to indeed be better ...I'm hopeful.

But please do post - if you find out what the problem or incompatibility is with Netscape 4.versions, jonh ....be interesting to know why.

Cheers...happy to be able to access again No more withdrawal sx;p

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lisa,

All I know for sure is that there is much more to learn.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind."

At last you done it

In my opinion those who are feeling some kind of deficiency in their personality they generally write in their signature.

so signature means the person is looking for ... what it is written under signature

I would love to say that Netscape was the answer, but I'm afraid we had so many problems with it (read up on the 'known issues'- and then there seemed to be others not listed as well), that we uninstalled it today, and went back to the trusty old 4.7 version.

So, I'm hoping Jonh will see if there is any way to rectify whatever the problem is with those *FEW* pages that won't load - as I had/have no other problems with any of the other pages.

Dr Cartoon - I think it is obvious that what people write as their signature could have a variety of meanings/reasons, etc. So, I can't really agree with you that "those who are feeling some kind of deficiency in their personality they generally write in their signature."

I wouldn't render my signature as signifying a deficiency in my personality. Rather, I would consider it being conscious - a wise reminder.

MY signature is for me. It is a daily reminder for ME. It keeps me open, honest and helps me not get caught up in dogma, fear, or whatever else creeps up. If anyone else gets something from it - then, BONUS .

So, I consider that a strength - the reminder helps me to be conscientious - a kind of affirmation, if you will.


what if I put "peanut butter" in my signature? (well, I do quite like it) Hey, I'm thinking about changing it - read something nice today.........

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Lisa,

Netscape 6 has been giving some problesm to me, and just today I downloaded/installed Netscape 6.2, which is much, much better. And it did not take too long to download. They've really improved on the NEtscape 6.

Of course, I don't know whay you don't like IE, but I would still suggest you could use that in v6.

warm regards,
doctorleela

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Dr Leela, I appreciate you trying to help out , but I did download Netscape 6.2.

And it has far too many issues - the main problems were to do with it interferring with other programs. It took over all our photo (gif, jpg, etc) files - we could not use our normal programmes to access photos - but rather they were opening up in Netscape (NOT ideal if you want to make any changes to it!) and when we tried to convert it to another format - Netscape would 'grab' the files back and that was that. We tried JPEG Smartsaver - and Netscape inteferred with that - causing a problem even opening the files! (Thank God, my husband backed them up first!)....- not to mention other bugs which Netscape has no solution too - and they say so!! If you read their document on 'known issues' you might see what I'm referring too.

But, again, thanks for trying to help out. I do appreciate it.

I'm sure that Jonh and his webmaster can sort this out - a LOT of people use Netscape version(s) 4.7..(4.72, 4.73, 4.76, etc) - so it is in his interest to get it sorted.

And it IS only on a few pages (the pages which list the threads for each forum only) that there is even a problem....so I am quite certain it can be rectified with a bit of effort.

IE - it is s...l....o....w. Insecure (it can be hacked much much easier than Netscape!). Crashes easily. Mucks up the Dial-up...need I go on?
Netscape surfs much faster - user-friendly (tho I'm NOT impressed with Versions 6....) - isn't as prone to security 'weaknesses' and it is just an overall likeable little programme.

All the best,
Lisa

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Dear Lisa
I am having the same problems that you have.
I do not and will not use Internet Explorer.
According to an expert (not me) the problems with
the BB pages are due to some faulty (sloppy) programming.

Netscape 4 is very precise and allows no mistakes in programming. Netscape 6.2 is more forgiving and lets the faulty programming go through.
I myself will not upgrade.
regards
Gina.

Hi Lisa,

As something of a computer/internet illiterate I just use what somebody else has installed in my computer. Which happens to be IE. I'd just like to know, what's wrong with it? And in which way is it "less secure"?

Would appreciate it if you could fill me in briefly.

Thanks,
Karin

Hi Gina and Karin ,

Gina, I agree - Netscape version(s) 4 are very stable. And, I won't switch now either - not after the last few days of ($&% on the computer trying to get everything to work *together*~!

Thanks for the explanation on why version 6 was able to load those pages whilst version 4.7 wasn't!

I really hope Jonh will get his programmer onto this and sort it out SOON.

Karin, I'm no expert on programming - and can't really tell you anything except that from having used IE for about 18 months - I found it to be unstable (it crashed a lot) and it is very slow in loading pages. I only became aware of just how slow it was when I first used Netscape! There was no turning back to IE after that.

Plus someone who is far more computer literate than me advised that IE is not nearly as secure (for worms, trojans - I think they are like viruses in a way - and are used to hack into people's computers - or something like that) as Netscape.

I remember I had to get *critical updates* all the time when using IE - whereas with Netscape, I simply had to configure Norton Anti-virus to protect my computer whilst surfing and whilst downloading emails - and it has been effective.

Sorry, I couldn't be of more help . Don't switch (if you're thinking about it) until Jonh gets the pages sorted, though .

Ever hopeful and waiting.

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Hi Lisa,
I think you found IE slow since it was too congested. Too may people use it. That is why Netsacpe works better. I don't knoe about security issues tough, and maybe you have a good point there.

But personally I have had no problem with IE, except something occassional.

There is a place for Netscape and the 6.2 has built in "conveniences" of IE that the older (even 4) did not have before.

Why not have both? When the lines are congested (eg working hours) avoid IE, Use only Netscape. But very late night and early mornings, you will find IE very quick.

Warm regards,
doctorleela

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