I recently took bryonia because I felt I was coming down with the flu...aching and stiff all over..abdominal stuff...well, its a few days later and I am so irritated with everyone. I feel extremely critical and am too brusk(brisk?) with people. I almost can't hold back saying what I percieve at the momment as truth even tho i unintentionally have hurt or been offensive to others. I've even had mean thoughts about strangers on the street...and am almost offended if someone tries to be nice to me. As if I'm saying cut out that nice guy **** and get serious. Is this possible a reaction to all the stuff going on in the world? I mean I've been crying at least 3 or 4 times a day since this started(from listening to sad stories) and now I just in a bad grouchy mood.

Can such a strong reaction be a proving or it this a sign that this remedy is pretty close to me.I took 200c. And, yes, I've been in nasty moods before. Can a remedy provide a situational reaction. In other words am I responding to this remedy because the last few weeks have sort of taken me away from myself and coming back is like a RUDE awakening...and I'm being rude to balance myself?

Hi,
I really don't feel one dose of 200C Bryonia will cause a 'proving'. Maybe a little aggravation if it's a close enough remedy. In any case maybe you're just expressing what you really feel at the moment. I know for myself, there's only so much 'nice guy' **** I can take then I get an overwhelming feeling of 'Oh for @#$@# sake, be real!' This whole scenario of recent days has been building up historically for a long time, I see it as yet another wake up call for the human race. On the surface we say all the right things, all the right platitudes, everyone is politically correct, but underneath there's an overwhelming sense of personal dissatisfaction, fear of being deprived, personal deceit, and an unwillingness to be personally responsible for our own actions. There's rape, racism, theft, incest, domestic violence, prejudice, bigotry, intolerance, murder, lying, manipulation, cynicism, and now it's been brought up close and personal. Once again. But take heart, because at least we're living in democratic societies. Feeling better yet? I doubt it, your response is, in my opinion, a totally realistic one. But, this too will pass... So take heart in a blue sky, a tide which rolls in regardless, your loved ones, a good movie, a good song, a dog wagging its tail at you, the natural birth/death cycle. God, what a beautiful planet we strangers inhabit.
chris

Hey ChrisG, how's things?

I have taken quite a few remedies myself over the years, sometimes prescribed by other homoeopaths and sometimes by myself. I have always taken a single pill, and I have definitely proven some of those remedies - Nat-c made me feel terribly alone, Bar-c made me feel intensely angry, China produced a perfect straight line of eruptions across one shoulder in a few hours, Lyc made me feel really powerful and strong - like I could hurl tables across the room, Sulphur made a mess of my skin, Koala milk created an intense hallucination that I was going to be kidnapped by my flatmate. These were usually in 30c, occasionally in 200c.Some remedies I have taken have done nothing noticable at all. Some remedies aggravated my current state without producing any cure.

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It definitely sounds like a proving to me--if this isn't your personality.

Snoopy

DavidJK,

Those are wonderful interpreations of yours following the remedies. Maybe you could write a book on the central feeling of remedies that you have proved. I would buy it!

Thanks for those insights.

Docotrleela

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Hi Carolorr,
What happened to your flu symptoms during all that emotional stuff? Since this was what you were taking the rx for in the first place. Any improvement or aggravation?

Regards,
Karin

Well, I didn't get another abdominal cramp but my stomach doesn't feel quite right..and the stiffness in neck returned and a very light headache..a pressure in my forehead. so I would say it didn't do what I wanted it to do.But I don't think I had the symptoms during the worst of the emotional stuff. I'm not sure I'd dare to take another dose. But thanks for asking.

this remind me of 8th observation of Kent's lectures.Of hypersensitive individual who proves at every remedy.these individuals are good provers .I am copying it here.

$ Eighth observation [8th observation]

Some patients prove every remedy they get;
patients inclined to be hysterical, overwrought, oversensitive to
all things. The patient is said to have an idiosyncrasy to
everything, and these oversensitive patients are often incurable.
You administer a dose of a high potency, and they will go on and
prove that medicine, and while under the influence of that
medicine they are not under the influence of anything else. It
takes possession of them, and acts as a disease does; the remedy
has its prodromal period, its period of progress and its period
of decline. Such patients are provers, they will prove the
highest potencies. When you find a patient that proves
everything you give in the higher potencies go back to the 30th
and 200th potencies. Such patients are most annoying. You will
often cure their acute diseases by giving them the 30th and
200th, and you will relieve their chronic disease by giving them
the 30th, 200th and 500th potencies. Many of them are born with
this sensitivity and they will die with it; they are not capable
of rising above this over-irritable and over-wrought state.

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Trouble is with my reactions, is that I am only one person, and you need to be able to correlate the symptoms with other's experiences. However, I always keep in mind the straight line of eruptions for China - that was too wierd to be anything but a proving.

Gee, I would love to write a book one day - I will wait till I have more experience though. And perhaps something new to talk about- I am still rediscovering all the ideas that have gone before us.

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Hi David, thing's are OK, and you?
I've been prescribed and self-prescribed a number of different remedies too over the years. A prominent homoeopath in our town once gave me Hepar Sulph on the basis that she considered I had a mean suspicious face when I asked her questions at lectures. The Hepar Sulph 28C one dose suppressed a skin eruption beautifully. Next vistit a fortnight later, she gave me Lachesis based on the fact I had an aversion to standing out in the sun (in February, in our town????) this remedy dropped me into a severe depression, I lost my job, and when it wore off I was just glad to be alive. I found out later that this homoeopath's marriage had ended after she and her husband engaged in wife-swapping parties. But she considered my sexual preference to be perverse, and the fact that I am a little ticklish was a sure sign of child abuse. She sent me off with a book about women who are addicted to love or something. I think a little projection on her part may have tainted her prescribing abilities. Three doses of 30C. Thanks for nothing, sister!
Another prescriber gave me Nat mur 30C which produced lousy effects, it was the wrong remedy at that time.
I consider myself to be a moderately- to hyper- sensitive patient.
My understanding is that healthy people 'prove' remedies. Sensitive people aggravate on wrongly fitting remedies, or too high dosage. The lesson for me has been to be cautious with my experimentation, and too use a test dose in the beginning.
Looking forward to seeing you at the new homoeopathy centre Wednesday evening?

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