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Old 14th September 2001, 07:38 AM
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Fearing that the message posted at ozzie's thread may not get the required attention there, given the size of that thread, it is reproduced below:

About the sanctity of life, the Holy Quran says:

If anyone killed a person not in retaliation of murder, or(and) to spread mischief in the land - it would be as if he killed all mankind, and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind. (Al-Quran: 5:32) (translation of the Quran with Arabic text is available on a number of sites and anybody can verify).

The Prophet of Islam (May peace be upon him) said: The greatest of sins are: 1) To join others as partners in worship with Allah, 2) to murder a human being, 3) to be undutiful to one's parents 4) and to make a false statement," or said, "to give a false witness. (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Vol.9, Hadith No. 10)

There seem to be great misconceptions about Islam outside the Islamic world. Sincere efforts need to be made to remove the centuries-old misunderstandings. A beginning to that end has been made by giving section on Islam at the website of The Society of Pakistani Homoeopaths - www.geocities.com/homoeopathpk/Islam

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Thank you, Ghazi and Ozzie, for bringing attention to this.
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Dear Ghazi,

Very good of you to offer verifications from the Holy Quran. And I sincerely hope that Islam is not confused with this type of barbaric act. I have a number of close friends/patients who are Muslims of various sects, and most are simple, helpful, peace loving people.

Unfortunately it is some of the "Islamic Countries" themselves that have given the impresion of acceptance of these evil people who allow such activity to perpetrate.

Most understanding people will be able to distinguish between the two. And even both the US and UK governments have gone on record repeatedly stating not to equate this action with Islam. It is sad that the poor Muslim in the street will have to face the social consequences.

But the misunderstanding has been substatiated by fundamentalists and leaders in your own, and neighbouring countries, and educating the ill informed is going to be an up hill task.

Still, I appreciate your effort.

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doctorleela, going through what you say does create an impression as if the crashes were the work of some Muslim fundamentalist outfit. I do not think you are right in your assumption.

Had it not been on this Bulletin Board, I would have taken what you say as a political statement of Indian Prime Minister or Foreign Minister. Let us avoid all the propaganda with political undertones.

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Dear Ghazi,

I do not intend to get into a confrontation with you. I should have been more clear there. Let me clear the reference to "these ()people".

First, the groups that have been mentioned in the media as possible "people"/suspects, have gone on record to justify the attack. There is no justification in my opinion.

Second, I am not saying (and in no position to say) that this is the work of some "Muslim Outfit". It may be just about anybody with an evil intent.

Third, I made a mistake in putting the word "evil" along with "these people", as I have always believed that though intentions are evil, people are not.

I hope this calms your heart. There was no intention to slander.

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Thanks for the clarification.
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Dear Ghazi,

The first precept does not make sense to me. I would think that joining with others as partners to worship would be a good thing. Would you please explain. Maybe something is lost in the translation.

I'm afraid that when people act in groups, they feel that the lives they take are not really murder, but rather that their people have been murdered and they are righteously retaliating. And so it escalates. Will mankind never learn without destroying itself?

Have you noticed that when people go to war, they always invoke the name of their God to support their cause? When my son was very young, we were watching a TV series that featured bible stories. It was one of the Old Testament battles that was on and my son said, "I know now why God doesn't like war. The good guys get killed, too."

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This article "Taliban in No-Win Situation" gives some further perspective of the current dilemma in Afghanistan:
http://news.excite.com/news/ap/01091...libans-dilemma
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Thank you David, an excellant article to help us understand the position of the Afghanistani people.
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Dear Ghazi,
I have the Q'uran here in my house - in English - so, if you want, I can post what the English version says if it proves confusing to try to translate from your native tongue.

I'll go have a look for the verses now - but if there are more - please say which verses you want to quote, and I'll happily post them for all.

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