On my search for the meaning of DELUSION, I came across the following:

Psychiatry: False believe about the self, often present in paranoia and dementia.
Synonyms:
Error, felicity, fantasm, hallucination, illusion. A delusion is a mistaken conviction , an illusion a mistaken perception, or inference. An illusion may be wholly of the senses; a delusion always involves some mental error. We speak of the illusion of fancy or of hope, but of the delusion of the insane. A hallucination is a false image or believe which has nothing, outside the disordered mind, to suggest it; as, the hallucinations of delirium tremens.
What are your definitions?
Greetings from Ireland, hans

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Okay, I have to cheat a bit (looking in Yasgur's Homeopathic Dictionary and hoping it is correct or this new book could be considered unreliable).

Delusion:
a representation of the patient's innermost feelings which in the broad sense involves holding onto a false belief in spite of evidence to the contrary. A wrong perception of reality.

I recall someone telling me (think it was Louise, actually ) that delusions were fears, but on thinking about it a bit further, I wonder if fears arise from delusions themselves.

Well, those are my two cents for now....it's late here - so I'll have another think when I'm brighter.

Thanks for the food-for-thought.
Lisa

AH ..Lisa,

I remember this converstaion about delusions(last year); well at that time I said what I was taught; that delusions are FEELINGS.

Collins dictionary; delusion; a hallucination; a false belief;(esp pyschol) error.

This year I see delusions differently.

I think the delusions listed in repetorys (not all) but some, might well be delusions, not belonging to the provers/patients...but the belonging to the homeopaths who have been conducting provings in this fashionable delusional disease!!

Anyway, delusions CANNOT be feelings!
Feelings come.
They are not mind events.
There is no 'error' or 'falseness' in ordinary feelings.

In fact, the delusion section of the repetory could be sliced to one tenth of what it is now, happily.

'Delusions', if they are commonplace, surely come from the basic emotional states of fear, grief, anger..etc.

Yours,
Louise.

Hallo Hans,
Delusion=Täuschung, Verblendung, Wahn
Täuschung=deception, delusion (self deception)
Verblendung=blindness, delusion, infatuation
Wahn=delusion

These translations show that the actual word for delusion would be "Wahn", implying mental insanity. The other words don't hit home that deeply, but speak of the blindness one has toward reality. I personally sense delusion to be the state where actual reality is not perceived anymore and a new created reality has taken over the place of the actual reality, thus blinding the sufferer (not that he/she would necessarily know !)... but then, what can be called reality ?
Greetings, Claudia

Ahhhhh - thanks Louise ....well, errrrr, um - it started with an "F"....sorry I misquoted (it was late, lol).

Thanks for your take on it now...I did wonder if things had evolved for you (I was pretty certain they had ).

All the best,
Lisa

Lisa, that was the thread called Fanatics or something. Evolved?? not too sure about that! , but it may have been a delusion to think delusions are feelings. I don't really understand what they are.

Hey, was there a thread called Fanatics? Or am I just sloooowwwww tonight (probably the latter) .

Well, if you think differently about Delusions than you did last year when we spoke about it, then it's safe to deduce that your views have - err - umm - evolved .

Errrr - or maybe the whole thing is an illusion from my lack of sleep, lol :razz:.

Sorry Hans, couldn't resist...

Wonder if anyone else will shed their light/perspective on the subject....

PS good point, Claudia....just what is reality? Oh, this could be a very good discussion indeed...but I suspect it is very simple, really . Beautifully so.

[ 02 September 2001: Message edited by: LisaAnnan ]

In a more homeopathic context, I came across the following explanation:

A delusion reflects the innermost disturbance in man, which is expressed in his thinking, feeling, doing (dreams). In the diseased state, this is the centre of the case, the central delusion. If we are able to identify this basic delusion in the patient, and match that with our homeopathic remedy, so that it can be overcome, then we can be quite sure to treat quick and effective, and have followed homeopathic principals.

This statement assumes different things:

1. The mind is superior to the rest of man.
2. The liveforce has intelligence.
3. That a non-judgemental observer (par.6, Org.), is at the same time judgmental (imagining the central delusion),
4. That there is a central delusion, as something invisible inside the patient, which has to be removed .
5. That the central delusion is the cause of the disease.

I want to look into the validity of the five assumptions:

1. The mind only in a very limited way has powers over the entire metabolism. Most humans are unable by their mental powers to stop pain, prolong live, overcome chronic disease.
2. The liveforce is a rather mechanical principle without any intelligence.
3. Impossible for me. If I would accept this, every pain reported, every subjective symptom would be a delusion, as it is only experienced by the patient.
4. This comes along as the ‘’materia pecans’’ idea.
5. It is impossible to actually show, the quality of causativeness. This causativeness can only be imagined. No matter what test, method, machinery is used, all what can be shown , is that certain things coincide phenomenally.

I resume, that non of the assumptions are true, and therefore the whole explanation is of little value.

---People dream of existing things and wonder why,
I dream of things which don’t exist and ask why not?----

Greetings from Ireland, Hans

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I see the "problem" in the fact that we create our own reality with our thoughts, words and actions. This shows why a delusional person absolutely believes their ways to be the healthy state. It takes more than unprejudiced observing, it takes insight, prophesy and wisdom, the knowing of human nature to figure out what is real for a given individual, what corresponds to their innermost nature and what are layers of disease. (delusions) To reach that high a level, I dare say a practitioner needs to transcend his/her own delusions/illusions and become as clear as possible, for if this is not the case, there will ALWAYS be projections of one sort or another. This is why homeopathy is not only science but also an art which requires Divine inspiration.
Claudia