Dear CRA,

I know there are remedies for Lyme disease, I know Ledum is one, but I'll have to check to see if it's only indicated in the acute phase.

I'll get back.

Snoopy

Lyme disease (Murphys rep) Ars, Merc and Thuja.

If I were you I wouldn't be soo worried about antidoting your chronic remedy and would definately try to treat this lyme disease with homeopathy. It is possible that your vital force has taken such a beating the chronic remedy may have already been used up.

What are your current symptoms?
Could you expand on what you meant when you said that mentally things are for the better? Do you think this is from the last remedy you took?

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I'm with you Barb! Tell us your symptoms. I'm afraid the antibiotics will do their usual stellar job of suppression to more vital organs; so, it's important to cure with homeopathy.

Snoopy

Clinical Alert: Chronic Lyme Disease Symptoms Not Helped by Intensive Antibiotic Treatment
National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease (NIAID)
12 June 2001

Results of the first randomized, placebo-controlled, double-blind trials testing antibiotics in patients with a stubborn form of Lyme disease those whose symptoms persist after standard courses of antibiotics validate that these patients suffer significant pain and other disabling symptoms. The two trials found, however, that a 90-day course of intravenous and oral antibiotics was no better than placebo at improving these chronic symptoms.

Because of their potential importance to Lyme disease treatment, The New England Journal of Medicine is publishing these findings today online at http://www.nejm.org. The report will appear in the July 12th print edition of the journal. The studies were funded by a National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) contract to Mark S. Klempner, M.D., of Boston University School of Medicine.

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Or check........http://www.homeopathic-healing.com/boom12.htm this is a BB member.

I have given one dose of Ledum 10M to suspected cases of Lymes and they did not develop. Weaker persons, babies or animals may sometimes require 200C and if needed repeat in one week. It may be necessary to repeat once more for a max total of three doses.

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Currently the Lyme symptoms are limited to stiffness in my knuckles and finger joints, and to a lesser extent in my feet. The stiffness went away at first when I started taking antibiotics, but in the past few days it is back. The swelling has gone down, leaving the skin in some places looking dry and shrivelly. My rash is fading. One thing that might be interesting: the rash started with my right foot and spread upward, even reaching my face; then it began to fade from the top down. Now it is hardly visible except on my legs. The rash started out looking like tiny bug bites, which eventually spread into irregular shapes that got very large (as big as my palm in some places) and looked like purple bruises with red rings around them; eventually the purple part began to fade, leaving a red ring around a pale center. Now I have been on antibiotics for nearly 2 weeks and the rash just looks like old bruises. What concerns me is that I was coming out of the "rash stage" before I ever started on antibiotics (my rash had started to fade) and some of the things I read say that after that it is difficult to achieve a thorough cure. But then, they're not homeopaths so...

The mental stuff:
Before I got sick I was exhausted from a month or so of working extra hard at home and at the office. I felt very low, sluggish, unable to enjoy anything, suicidal. I think being sick gave me the time I needed to just rest in bed; during that period I had what I would call moments of clarity about things that had gone wrong, what I could do about them, etc. Eventually I got bored with just lying around and became determined to get out and do things and turn my life around. I had a lot of feverish energy and felt cheerful about my illness despite still being unable to eat much, having a badly swollen foot that made it difficult to walk -- very strange for me. I have been able to maintain this energy even though I now feel fine aside from stiff joints. My eating habits have also changed dramatically. Since I was only able to eat tiny amounts while I was sick, I'm now able to eat much less than I did before, and much healthier things. I am no longer a dairy freak (except for eating a little yogurt to maintain my intestinal flora while taking antibiotics) and my hyperacidic stomach problems have mostly vanished, so that I can now eat sour foods that I never could have dealt with before. Some of this can probably be chalked up to my new remedy, since I understand that it is supposed to have an impact on excessive appetite and stomach complaints as well as emotional issues, but I think most of the changes were already underway before I took it.

To be honest I am a little worried about my homeopath's reaction if I tell her that I've taken other remedies. On one hand she seems reluctant to deal with acutes (I can understand that; she doesn't want to be on call 24/7) but on the other hand when I told her I had taken Rhus Tox she seemed irritated. The truth is I don't find it that easy to talk to her. She seems to disapprove a lot. I can appreciate that I'm not perfect, but that's why I'm going to her for help. On the other hand, the remedies she has given me for chronic things have certainly had an impact. Hmmm... what to do, what to do.

Hello everyone, I wrote a couple of weeks ago about my fever and strange rash, loss of appetite, stiff joints, etc. It turns out that it's Lyme disease of all things - no wonder I wasn't having any luck with remedies for chickenpox!

Anyway, my MD gave me a 3-week course of antibiotics, which I'm not crazy about, but I am worried enough about the potential long-term effects of Lyme disease (permanent, incurable arthritis) that I am taking them. Supposedly, if you catch the problem while you are still in the "rash stage" chances of a complete recovery are good. However, I'm worried that I wasted a week thinking I had chickenpox. My doctor was so impressed by the severity of my symptoms that she took pictures of my rash to show her medical students, and brought a resident in to look at me. So I guess I'm a star now . Although I feel much better overall and the rash is fading, the stiff joints, particularly in my hands, are proving to be more stubborn.

I will see my homeopath before the end of the month, but she is out of town and I'm wondering whether I should be taking something now to combat the stiff joints before any more damage is done? To complicate things further, while I was still quite sick my homeopath gave me a high-potency remedy for my chronic case, so I am worried about antidoting that if I take anything else. As far as symptoms go, it would be hard to differentiate the effects of the antibiotics, the homeo remedy, and the Lyme disease. Then there's the potpourri of low-potency remedies I took when I first got sick: Belladonna, Pulsatilla, Gelsemium, Rhus Tox, Ledum, Lachesis, and Apis. I hope I'm not forgetting any.

This illness has really had quite an impact on me. Beyond the physical symptoms, my mental outlook, appetite, all sorts of things have changed for the better. It was the sort of emotional epiphany I would expect with the right homeopathic remedy. But the stiff joints really worry me. I would be very grateful for any advice.

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wow..talk about unknown causes! where you aware of getting bitten by a tick, or did it come from something else? Do we know what remedy you are having, for interest sake?
Glad you are feeling a bit better.

Hi Louise, I'm fairly certain I was bitten by a tick at a 4th of July cookout at someone's house out in the sticks. Both of the hosts now also have Lyme disease . I had something on the back of my leg that I couldn't see very well - at the time I thought it was a scab but now I believe that was my tick.

PS the remedy I took is Douglas Fir.

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Dear CRA,

Welcome to the world of Kentian Homeopathy,
where homeopaths don't treat acutes, can't be bothered with acutes, and yell at their patients alot. This type of prescribing--actually, it's 4th edition Organon prescribing (one-dose-high-and-wait), brings out the worst instincts of the practitioner. Whereas we get into Homeopathy originally because we want to help, this kind of prescribing tells you not to help when your patient needs you the most. "If I help you I'll antidote the remedy!" So, instead of being on the side of the patient, you're on the side of your prescription. Even parents' instincts to help their children are corrupted by this method--and I should know because I was one of those parents once, where after my daughter had been given a 200C she developed a cough and she said, "Mom, I'm coughing, and I said, "Just try to live with it, OKAY?" This is not the sound of a mother, let me assure you. If a certain approach to medicine comes between a mother and her maternal instincts, this is bad news; and Hahnemann thought so too, that's why he said in the 6th ed. of the Organon: What I said before in previous editions about one-dose-high-and-wait? Well, forget it--not such a good idea.

And now, if you read the books of the Hahnemannian homeopaths, like Robin Murphy, they'll tell you: Daily low potencies! If you get an acute, stop the remedy, take a 30C or a 200C of the acute remedy, clear up the acute, and then go back on your chronic remedy. This is humane, and makes for a profession where we can stop yelling at our patients.

Snoopy