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Old 5th August 2001, 07:55 PM
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There is an article in the Sunday Times today about Infanrix HIB which apparently is a mercury free vaccine. Previously it was suggested that we use Sulphur 30 to counteract the mercury in the old vaccine. Does this mean they are safe, safer?
I'm sure we would all like to say Good on Yer to Dr Peter Mansfield of Worcestershire who "faces possible suspension" for recommending separate measles, mumps and rubella injections to children.
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Old 6th August 2001, 01:21 AM
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Even if the mercury is removed, vaccinations are still dangerous. I mean, what about formaldehyde and the rest of the chemicals?

Why not ring your local doctor and ask him how much fomaldehyde is safe for the human body to ingest and see what his answer is? Then go through all the chemicals listed on the bottle and see if any are in fact safe?

Why are we vaccinating anyway? Watching a news programme on the foot and mouth sitution, the BVA admitted that vaccination would not have worked. So what is the point, other than making money for pharmaceutical companies?

Vaccination is not safe (Even Louis Pasteur recanted his work on his deathbed), and until doctors and the medical convention admit this, I won't be cheering.
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I agree with Simone. Someone mailed me an interesting letter a while back--a special offer to physicians, especially pediatricians, of $20,000 US dollars....if they would drink the substances in vaccines in the quantities that children must handle during the routine course of inoculation. I'll post it here, just so you get the point.

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Here's the letter:

THE FOLLOWING OFFER is made to U.S.-licensed medical doctors who routinely administer childhood vaccinations and to pharmaceutical
company CEOs worldwide.

Jock Doubleday, president of the California nonprofit corporation Natural Woman, Natural Man, Inc., hereby offers $20,000.00 (U.S.)
to the first medical doctor or pharmaceutical company CEO who
publicly drinks a mixture of standard vaccine additive ingredients in the same amount as a six-year-old child is recommended to receive under the year-2000 guidelines of the U.S. Centers for
Disease Control and Prevention.

The mixture will not contain viruses or bacteria dead or alive, but will contain standard vaccine additive ingredients in their usual forms and proportions. The mixture will include, but will not be limited to: thimerosal (a mercury derivative), ethylene glycol (antifreeze), phenol (a disinfectant dye), benzethonium
chloride (a disinfectant), formaldehyde (a preservative and disinfectant), and aluminum.

The mixture will be prepared by Jock Doubleday, three medical professionals that he names, and three medical professionals that the participant names. The mixture will be body weight calibrated.

The participant agrees, and any and all agents and associates of the participant agree, to indemnify and hold harmless in
perpetuity any and all persons, organizations, or entities associated with the event for any harm caused, or alleged to be caused, directly or indirectly, to the participant or indirectly to the participant's heirs, relations, employers, employees, colleagues, associates, or other persons, organizations, or entities claiming association with, or representation of, the
participant, by the participant's participation in the event.

Because the participant is either a professional caregiver who
routinely administers childhood vaccinations, or a pharmaceutical company CEO whose business is, in part, the sale of childhood vaccines, it is understood by all parties that the participant considers all vaccine additive ingredients to be safe and that the participant considers any mixture containing these ingredients to
be safe.

The event will be held within six months of the participant's written agreement to the above and further elaborated terms. This offer, dated January 29, 2001, has no expiration date unless superceded by a similar offer of higher remuneration.

Contact Jock Doubleday at
jockdoubleday@aol.com.

* * * *

Permission is granted to all parties to reproduce all or any part
of the above text in any media.

Jock Doubleday
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A California Nonprofit Corporation
P.O. Box 1453
Nevada City, CA 95959 http://www.gentlebirth.org/nwnm.org
jockdoubleday@aol.com

Jock Doubleday is author of the soon-to-be-published book "Spontaneous Creation: 101 Reasons Not to Have Your Baby in a Hospital."


Personally, I love this letter! It lets people see just how much poison is used in these vaccinations--and it makes the whole process difficult to justify, when you stop thinking about "viruses" and "protection" and just picture beakers full (remember, body weight calibrated!) of all these toxic substances, ready to be drunk pure--the way they are put in the body via vaccines. Perhaps Dr. Peter Mansfield will be among those who "step right up" to put his "beliefs" on the line...(but I won't hold my breath.)

Nothing like making people "see" the reality in the situation, right?

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Right on
i just mailed a copy of that to the Independent - wonder if they'll print it
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I'm just cynical enough (or, perhaps, the media is cynical enough!) to believe it won't be printed.

However, if it does get some print space, THAT will be an excellent reason for a celebratory thread on this BB!

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Divina,

Thanks! All the talk until now has been about whether vaccines "work", or whether foreign proteins should be put into a person's blood stream, every issue except, what about the additives in these things?

And as if we didn't have enough reason not to vaccinate already....

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Snoopy,

Funny thing is I just got my latest copy of WDDTY (What Doctors Don't Tell You) through the post this week.

One of the articles was on the so-called non-reactive additives in conventional drugs. Amazing how people worry about the side effects of the active ingredients, but so few worry about the additives. Things used for flavouring and colouring. Cough mixtures which contain over 60 per cent. sugar, etc.

Very interesting article. As it turns out some of the medication I had previously taken included non-reactive additives that I am in fact allergic too! Or I once was allergic to; who knows these days after all that homeopathic treatment!

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Anything printed in The Independent yet?
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Well not my letter, but the front page yesterday was about the MMR vaccine "one jab good, three jabs bad" related to Dr Peter Mansfield offering separate Measles, Mumps, Rubella jabs and being threatened with being struck off. Today there are two letters - one from a GP telling us that 79 children died in Japan after single jabs were offered and consoling us with the fact that parents are "condemned if the do (vaccinate) and condemned if they don't " the other letter also from a Doctor (GP or ?) saying the case against Dr Mansfield is too absurd and that the monovalent measles is used nearly everywhere in the EU but does not have a UK licence. So on it goes. My guess is that the government is panicking (they spent 3million of a guilt inducing poster campaign to promote MMR last month!!!)

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