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Old 28th July 2001, 09:09 PM
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The West Nile Virus has recently been CONSIDERED A POSSIBILITY as POSSIBLY doing damage to a person in North Florida, AND IT IS IN THE PROCESS OF BEING CONFRMED (OR NOT) AS WEST NILE VIRUS...THEREFORE IT HAS NOT YET AT THIS PRESENT TIME BEEN CONFIRMED AS WEST NILE VIRUS BEING THE CAUSE ... as recorded in http://jackvanimpe.com/cgi-bin/update.cgi in the one of the news items for July 28, 01; and some of the symptoms are as follows:
People infected with WNV generally experience mild to severe symptoms underscored by high fever levels that occur rapidly and can last up to seven days. Other symptoms include severe headache, a rash, swollen lymph nodes, gastrointestinal problems and pain in the eyes, muscles and back. In advanced cases, WNV can cause seizures, paralysis and coma…”
...so my question is this: is there anyone who is familiar with more of the symptoms of West Nile Virus and has there been found a remedy or group of remedies that fits this particular epidemic? Is there any one who can venture an educated guess which rememdy or group of remedies that could cover these symptoms? Has there been any headway in the practice of homeopathic practitioners in curing this epidemic? Thanks for your consideration and help joel2u2

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Well, unfortunately, the problem is that it is really not much of an epidemic.

Last year, there was supposed to be a big scare about it in the area where I live. Authorities made a big effort to look for and collect any dead birds, and what they found was there was not much conclusive evidence to pinpoint WNV as the cause of death in these animals. They did have a ton of overwhelming evidence that the birds actually died from pesticide/herbicide sprayings and exposures.

As this area is one of the largest agricultural areas, the pesticide caused bird deaths are far more likely. This year, no dead birds have been found killed by WNV. But the death rate is increasing via pesticide use.

Isn't Florida one of the largest agricultural states, too?

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PS--you could possibly consider any remedy which has the symptoms you mention above--acute rems like belladonna, gelsemium, baptisia, pyrogenium, etc. etc. I guess the Genus Epidemicus type remedies for flu/yellow or scarlet fevers/typhoids if there is sepsis...then hone in on patients' particular symptoms and try to choose the similimum according to what they present.
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Last year, in the great garden state of New Jersey, horses were put down if suspected of having West Nile! Routinely. The scare was of such intensity that vets were required to sever the heads to be sent for analysis. The great powers that be then passed all kinds of funding for local townships and counties to spay to their hearts content this year. Millions and millions of dollars for a non-event that will poison all the natural predators of mosquitoes plus everything else.
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Sorry there is a CORRECTION and that is it has not been as yet cofirmed as doing any damage in Fl. It is in the process of being confirmed as stated in the article I previously referred to: WEST NILE VIRUS HITS FLORIDA July 28, 2001

WorldNetDaily.com reports: “What Florida health officials have feared for months happened this week when a 57-year old north Florida man was diagnosed with possible West Nile encephalitis.
If the case is confirmed by the Florida Health Department and the U.S. Centers for Disease Control, it will be the first case of human infection in the U.S. this year. In summer 1999, New York City reported 62 severe cases of West Nile encephalitis, including 9 deaths. In 2000, an additional 17 cases in New York were reported with two deaths.

West Nile encephalitis is a brain virus carried by mosquitoes that can be easily transmitted to humans. Mosquitoes obtain the virus from feeding on infected birds. The West Nile virus, or WNV, can be deadly to humans, especially the elderly, but usually only causes mild illness in children and healthy adults.

People infected with WNV generally experience mild to severe symptoms underscored by high fever levels that occur rapidly and can last up to seven days. Other symptoms include severe headache, a rash, swollen lymph nodes, gastrointestinal problems and pain in the eyes, muscles and back. In advanced cases, WNV can cause seizures, paralysis and coma…”

Even if this is not a case of West Nile Virus I thought that rather than being fearful of the situation we might put our collective heads together to pool some knowledge together so as to have some ideas of some remedies ready if it gets to be a problem. How about aconite like maybe in Lymes disease and Ledum because it comes from a bite or sting from an insect? Are there any other thoughts going around that could help?
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Are there any suggestions in the book

" Homeopathy for Travellers "

cant remember who wrote it but seems likely to be usefull
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....diagnosed with possible West Nile virus...

Journalists are not very responsible people. That is my conclusion.

If you knew that the inflammatory response you'd be seeing were definitely the result of an insect bite, then something like ledum might be an option--although that remedy's sphere of activity is deep in the tissues and nerves, so it may not be what you want to address the fever and GI turmoil you'd be seeing.

Sounds to me as though any of the symptoms detailed for WNV are very much like the old "fevers"--scarlet, yellow, typhoid--listed above, as opposed to something like Lyme's disease, which does have an (almost helpless) inflammatory reaction, but basically progresses deep in the body. It is a different pathological pattern, I think.

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Thanks very much Pat, I did hear of a Travellers book, MAYBE by Phyliss Speight possibly, and thank you Divina; although I have NOT looked it up yet ledum MAY not have all the symptpoms like swollen glands or coma; but it needs to be looked up more.
It may be form of encephalitis and I do maybe remember that MAYBE in Dr. John Henry Clarke's book the Prescriber (that little book)on page 181 enters: Encephelitis Lethargica,(Sleepy Sickness) Helleb. Nig. and Bapt. and also another reference to the page 260 area as well. Robin Murphy's Medical Repertory (I think maybe that is the one) if my memory serves me well, possibly under the chapter on Diseases- a little rubric on encephalitis or Meningitis or maybe in his index in the back, which I have not had in front of me recently. There also may be a connection between a or similarity betweeen the symptoms of encephalitis and maybe spinal or maybe brain Menningitis. If there is that similarness in the symptoms of diseases, it could help to find more remedies associated with those similar diseases that are worth investigating for the similimum or genus epidemicus. Worth also considering is a study of Apis mel. and other similar remedies made from the stings of insects similar to the mosquito.
Thanks again Divina for all your help especially with those old fever remedies and concern and thanks to gpm and anyone who has some help to add in. joel2u2

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The World Travellers' Manual is by Dr Colin B. Lessel and I have it in front of me. It is a thick , expensive paperback with a wealth of information but nothing on this particular Virus. There is a section on prevention of diseases by mosqitoes + botanical insecticides. His answer to these type of things apears to be give the nosode in 30C!!!! So first catch your virus........
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Thanks for the schoolarly help Ricky as it does save a lot of time in searching all the Travellers books available. The nosode does seem interesting, but as for catching the virus I'll have to pass on that one. God willing, I'll not be catching anything except some sleep and the end of the evening.
He he but thanks for the rest of your help my friend. joel2u2
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