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Old 28th July 2001, 02:12 PM
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I would like to get second opinion about this recommended remedy for my 61/2 year old son.

The reason for second opinion is that Tub is not given without prescription in the US & I don't know why it is like that. Is Tub safe to give? Lets say it is the wrong remedy or not the best constitutional remedy, can it hurt the same as any other homeopathic remedy or will it hurt more?

My Son's Case:
Health and physique (Appearance, structure and nutrition)- Normal, picky eater, vegetarian, & does not eat any fruits. No vision or dental problems.

Present Complaints-
He gets sinus problems too often. Can catch cold/sinus problems too easily if in contact with any body else with similar problems. I want to build up his immune system so that he does not get sick too often.
He has allergies & gets sick (fever) too often: few times a year. His allergies are hereditary (both, mom & dad have sinus/allergy problems)& we don't know what he is allergic to. His allergy/sinus/ fever problems started about 3 years ago when he started going to school. Usually, he gets runny nose or will have have nasal discharge & will be stuffed up. His nasal discharge is 12 months a year, on & off. His eyes and area below the eys get puffy and his lips are dried and flaky during his sinus problems. His complexion becomes a little darker during his alelrgy attack, an indication to us that he is not feeling good or not in his best state of health.

Generally, when he gets fever due to his sinuses, he does not get any chills and is generally not complaining about anything other than nasal discharge & headaches as mentioned below. In general he is active & healthy.

He usually has been complaining of headache at the back of his head. This is throbbing pain & worse on motion & in heat. Sometimes he does not have headache but if he is sitting in a car for sometime he complains of headache i.e. gets headache due to motion.

He frequently (same time as sinus problems) gets chest congestion usually followed by dry cough. He currently does not have this problem. He also has got ear infections in the past (once or twice a year) but currently does not have this problem.

Earlier this month, when we were on a plane ride, he was complaining of really bad ear ache during plane takes off's & landing...(this could mean he currently has fluids in his his ears?)

Since, last one year he is scared in general & does not want to be left alone. Somebody has to be in the same room or close by or he is scared to be alone (doesn't matter what time of the day). He will get up in the middle of the night every day (even when his brother is in the same room) & comes to sleep with parents.

Past History-
No other problem other than flu or sinus problems. Taken all childhood immunizations as required by system here.

Thirst: Normal

Apetite: Normal but picky eater, strictly vegetarian. Prefers sweet stuff over salty items.

Desires regarding food articles- Does not like to drink water when he is thirsty, prefers drinks (carbonated & non carbonated).

We have noticed that whenever we go to a friends house with cats, his eyes are red the next day or following day, & will get runny nose & sneezing....may be allergic to cats...


Mentally:
In general he is a very bright, social, active kid. Extrovert, & doesn't keep anything to heart. Fears as mentioned above. He talks too much. I don't know if this is common for kids at that age, but I have to sometimes tell him to be quiet for a little while. Asks too many things, doesn't give up, will irritate others. At the same time as mentioned above, he is very sweeet & caring kid, makes every body laugh all the time.

Weather Here: The part of US we live in is very hot & humid & an area prone for allergy/sinus problems.

Past Remedies: I gave him Phos 200C, one dose about 1 1/2 months ago. I don't think it did much for him or at least I did not notice any much difference. He had a friend sleep over few days ago who had been on medication for sinus/allergy problems, (which we found the next day), my son had puffy red eyes the next day with very mild nasal stuffiness/irritation which went away after 2 days.

A homeopath who has not seen the kid has recommended Tub Bov 200C single dose as a constitutional remedy & I wanted to get second opinion for the reasons mentioned earlier. If Tub Bov is the correct remedy should I give it to him now when the acutes are not there at present?

Your response/help is highly appreciated.

Rajan
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Old 28th July 2001, 05:10 PM
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If you are not happy give the 30C potency in a split dose.I personally have never had any problems when giving this remedy to children.
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Old 28th July 2001, 06:23 PM
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Ricky: Thanks for your advise/comments.

I cannot even buy 30C here in US without a prescription. I have placed an order for 200C from U.K. My main concern was to see if this was the right remedy or in other words would you prescribe this remedy for the symptoms mentioned in my earlier post.

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I will only prescribe constituitionally on seeing the patient. I suggest that you trust your homeopath!! I take it only one dose has been prescribed?

In a Tub.child there is often a line of hair down their spine. Any temper tantrums? Is he artistic?

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Hi Ricky:

Line of hair down the spine, I don't believe so. He is neither artistic nor has temper tantrums.

Let me know if you have any more questions or if I can clarify anything else.

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They are often beautiful looking children, slim, long eyelashes. The theme is changeability as they are basically good natured but for no reason get temper tantrums with kicking, screaming. Shrieking during sleep may be present. There is a basic dissatifaction and to go and do new things all the time. Easily hurt and sensitive. Friendly and open but dislike interence (I once prescribed on just that with a child that wouldn't let me help him do puzzles and things.) tend to be jealous and don't like to see his parents happy. Can dliberately break something precious. Fear of dogs and a disgust at cats. Obstinate child.I would expect to see an indicatin of TB somewhere in the family. Grinds teeth at night. Don;t know if any of that helps or hinders!!?
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The tuberculinum proving is rather poor, and only a few symptoms are confirmed. To my knowledge there are 3 Tuberculinum products available: Tub-bovinum, tub-koch, tub-alt.
Which symptom relates to which preparation is unclear, and furthermore, it is unclear,if the preparations used today are the same like 100years ago.
Nosodes have the tendency to imprint more so than normal remedies.
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Dear Rajan,

I must have more info about your son--I don't believe one could prescribe on so little. I see nothing of Tub. in this case other than a possible allergy to cats, but when a child has so many allergies, the remedy can't be found by picking one allergen and finding out what remedy covers it. Besides, there are other remedies that are allergic to cats, including aluminum,
strontium carb and graphites, just to name 3, and with his dry lips, I'm more inclined to look at aluminum with it's famous trait of dryness.

Tuberculinums not only have cat allergies but they hate cats! They hate animals and fear dogs. Tuberculinum children, in fact, have horrible behavior problems; they're mean, rude--the parents are often aftaid of them. Punishment means nothing to them--they laugh at punishment.

By the way, do you know how many remedies there are in the rubric "colds, tendency to catch"? Over 100!

Does your child crave milk and bacon? These are Tub. keynotes. Your child is worse from riding in the car; Tub. kids love to travel; they get bored easily and need to keep moving, never satisfied in one place--is this your child?

I heard no confirmatories for Tuberculinum in your description. Nothing that a dozen other remedies don't share.

Tell me, how hot or chilly is your son? Does he walk around without a coat? Or is he happy to be bundled up? At night in bed, does he throw off the covers? Does he walk around without his shoes? Do his feet get hot or cold? What is his sleep position?
What time of day is he worse? In other words, what time are his problems more bothersome? What color does his mucus tend to be? When he's riding in the car, is this almost guaranteed to give him a headache?

I have a pretty good idea of what your child's remedy is but I need you to answer these questions first before I blurt it out.

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Old 29th July 2001, 03:33 PM
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Dear Ricky, Hans, & Snoopy: Thanks for your replies.

Snoopy I appreciate your detailed response. I will try to elaborate further & also cover some of the earlier raised points by Ricky.

There is no indication of TB in the family for parents, grand parents, Uncles, as far as I can go.
My son loves pets. Though, he is allergic to cats, he loves to play with cats & dogs. He is a bit of afraid of dogs as somebody's pet he was playing with tried to bite him, but he got lucky & the bite did not puncture his skin etc. So his slight fear is normal.

He is slim and has long eye lashes but he is a very sweet well behaved kid. Ideal well behaved kid in the school. Teachers love him. He is a bit sensitive kid, gets feelings hurt easily but only at home. But doesn't take it to the heart & quickly forgets about it & is back to normal. He is not mean or anything like that. He does not mind parents or anybody else's interference to help him to do something better. He does like to be checked & assured that he is doing the job/work correct.
He does not have any craving for milk but used to love drinking milk about a year ago. He is strictly vegetarian has no desire to eat any meat. We have to even force him to eat eggs.
He does not have any behavior problems (except for being scared as mentioned below), just normal child. As mentioned before he is scared all the time & does not want to be left alone in a room any time of the day. He comes daily in the middle of the night to sleep with his parents. Also, in the middle of the night he would ask his mother to hold him tight as he is scared. Due to this behavior I feel he may not be getting deep sleep.
In general, I think he is a "chilly kid". He is generally cold during the winter (it's hardly cold in the winter here in Texas) & often asks to switch off the AC in the car in the summer. But in the night while sleeping he likes to be uncovered.
His sinus problems are worse in the morning. He is always tired when he wakes up but gets better as the day progresses. His face is usually puffy especially under the eyes when he wakes up.
Regarding his headaches (back of the head) while driving, it is not always a case that he will get headache when he sits in the car. One out of three rides he will complain. Also, he complains that time that his stomach feels weird but he doesn't throw up. His headache complains while driving are usually in the day time & not in the evenings or night.

These days he does not have any ruuny nose or mucous discharge. The nasal discharge is usually thick & white but tendency is to quickly get thick/dried/greenish. He gets stuffed up in the nose. I have given him Pulsatilla in the past for this greenish mucous stage...he will get better..but then soon again will be back in same condition. Also, his chest gets easily congested which leads to dry cough. Sometimes he mentions that something came in his mouth when he coughed. He does gets post nasal drip when he has sinus problem.

Currently, he does have stuffy nose. His lips are dry (only lips & not anywhere else in the body).

Please let me know if I can provide any more details or missed any of your questions. Your help is highly appreciated.

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I agree with you Snoopy - no indication of Tub!!!
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