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Old 22nd August 2001, 04:39 AM
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Jvolkman!

I love to join here on daily basis but could not find time, as I have to take classes in the morning on daily basis and in the evening there is clinic commitment and here in Pakistan, BHMS exam is going to be held in the next months.

You are the person, which have a lot of contribution for this forum. You really provided lot of web information and links for this BB. It is a great effort from your side that you used to spare your time for this BB. This is your specialty, which any body cannot ignore. We should accept someone capability in some specific field.

Beside all this, today after reading some past posts displayed on this BB and remarks given by you in those posts. I am not happy. These remarks should not be come from a person of a high caliber like you.

You try to jaculorized an honorable member on language problem. I want to protect that member and say that wisdom is not embedded with language. Japan, Germany, China, France and Russia are those countries, which show their progress not with the help of English language but with hard work and wisdom. So if somebody is feeling linguistic problem then it does not mean that he is saying wrong. Please do help him and not to discourage him. If U are assuming, you born in english environment and hence you know english well. Then you are standing on wrong footing because after reading your views on this thread that symposium, congress and seminar etc all have similar meanings than it is a worse thing, which I have never come across. For your kind information these all have different meanings and setup procedure.

Secondly you have an objection on my signature. In this regard, I have to say that Ricky set up this PANDORA BOX of qualification. When she said she is M.Sc and license holder in U.K. She tried to prove her verdict on qualification and not on logics. In response to her remarks, which are still displayed on this bb. A member said, “There are many people, which are more qualified than you and are not interested to show their qualification.”

Now be happy, I am changing my profile.

And don’t find my grammatical and spelling mistake here. I wrote in hurry and English is not my mother language. I am a PUNJABI speaker. I came here for learning homeopathy and not taking English language exam.

Question is yet to be answer. I am now going to class. wait....
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Dr. Mas,

In your post you stated "symposium, congress and seminar etc all have . . . different meanings and setup procedure". Other posts by those with English as their first language stated there were no major distinctions, and the English dictionary also seems to confirm this. You are now in the position of being the first person who can answer Khalid's question. If you would be kind enough to post that answer, I (and I believe others) would sincerely like to read what you feel are the differences.
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My all honourable members!

My promise is a great obstacle between you and me. i.e. not to comment personal. Forget all things which happend in the past.

Let's learn somthing.

A member (i am not mentioning his name) in the past objected that this forum is not a question answer forum. But I believe that every contributor here have some question and queries. For which this environment is the best media to satisfy ourselves by discussing and exchanging our views and thoughts.

You will positively agree that a question is always a good source to start general discussion on a particular topic. Just like you send a question, which required some discussion and exchange of views.

As we all homeopaths used to attend seminars and symposiums. But I am sorry to say that we do not have clarification over them. You can see that some honourable members have the opinion that these are similar words and have similar structure for meeting of peoples and discussing points. Which is enormously wrong. These words certainly have special meanings and procedure for participation and discussion. You cannot replace a seminar into congress or symposium. Those people who are doing such practice they even do not know the ABC of such gatherings.

Let us see. How can we differentiate between them? Before calling symposium or seminar or congress, one should see the following points before dispatching invitation.

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Kind of problem/matter/subject, which you are going to discuss.
Purpose which is to be achieve
Used as Wide or narrow angle (limited or unlimited meaning)
Kind of participants
Procedure/method/formula which you will be adopt for conversation
Conclusion
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Read the following with above ref.

SYMPOSIUM

A problem (which is to be resolved) required some expert’s opinion from the experts of other fields.

The word Symposium is use for limited meanings i.e no huge gathering required.

Participants are all experts or specialized in some specific fields related to subject matter.

All the participants will present their views.

No conclusion is necessary.

For example, In Homeopathy, if we want to call a symposium then we can call on Potency matter. What is Potency? Experts from different fields will express their views on potency. Homeopath will first present his point of view and later on, specialized persons will comment on that view. A chemist will may tell you about Avogadro’ Law and his limitation. A Physics Scientist will may tell you the role of atom in potency. A Nuclear Scientist will may help you in getting different potency’s pictures for investigations. In this way, a Homeopath will gathered information on one subject from various field’s experts on special topic. After getting information, homoeopaths could make plans for research keeping in view of experts opinions given by specialist.

If the Organizer of the program is interested to invite maximum homoeopaths for symposium. They can attend the symposium as observer and are not allowed to comment or ask questions.

SEMINAR

If you want to CREATE AWARENESS among the persons belonging from the same field or in general public, then you will hold Seminar.

Seminar is use in wide meanings.

Participants are from the same field or general public.

As for as the procedure of the seminar is concern. Seminar required an expert, who will preside the seminar. Few experts from the same field will deliver their lectures or read their articles on subject matter. General public/participants from the same field will listen views from article presenters and may ask question at the end of articles. The resource persons (article presenters) will satisfy the participants. At the end of the seminar the presiding expert of the seminar will give his concluding remarks about the subject of the seminar, keeping in view of the views presented by different resource persons. Now a days, peoples are calling a chief guest for the seminars for presenting shields.

Concluding remarks are necessary.

Example: If you want to create awareness among general public about the advantages of homeopathic system of medicine, then you can arrange seminar. The resources persons (Not necessary homeopaths) will present articles and will try to convince the participants about advantages of homoeopathic system of medicine. Seminars are organized for promoting something.

Secondly, if you want to create awareness about some newly researched topic or an old topic (with new approach in homoeopathy) then you can arrange seminar. This will help homeopath to adopt procedures in their daily practice e.g topics are “ Homoeopathy in new millennium” or “Children’s diseases and homoeopathy” etc.


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I am happy now
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CONGRESS

If you have more then one topic for discussion from different fields or subjects then you will hold a congress. This generally held to present new concepts and researched in various fields.

Used for unlimited meaning and have wide angle.

Participants are from various fields.

Chairperson will hold congress. Participants and resource persons belong to various specialized fields, will present their articles on old or new topics with definite new approach.

No conclusion is necessary.

Example. If you have more than one topic from various fields. Then you will arrange Congress. If you have topic on

Arthritis and Homeopathy
Arthritis and Herbal Therapy
ITP
Electro Medicines

For this purpose, you will call Congress. Specialized persons from various fields will come. They will deliver lectures or present articles or thesis on given topics.

CONFERENCE

Technical problems, which required consensus and discussion from different organizations, associations, societies and groups relating to the same field.

Wide meanings

Participants will represent their association, organization and society.

Conclusion is necessary.

Example. If you are interested to make a plan, which is to be adapted after developing consensus, then you will call conference. A topic “Health problems and Homeopathy” demands conference. So that different associations and organizations may work with same consensus.

CONVENTION

To be arrange, for developing POLITICAL NEEDS. In order to discuss strategy, which is required to be adopted with any Government or Head of the concerned department.
No educational matter is necessary. It may be arrange between all homeopathic parties.

WORKSHOP

It is totally a different thing. It is just like a class for short duration. It is to be arrange for training of participants from various fields PRACTICALLY. It somewhat a refresher course in the same field.

SUMMIT

Summit will only be held between the head of state. I have no idea about summit with reference to homeopathy. I have no information on any homeopathic summit.

Example. Recently a summit was held between the President, Chief Executive and Chief of Army Staff of Pakistan Gen Pervaiz Musharaf and Prime Minister of India Atal Bihari Wajpai. That summit is called as Agra Summit. There is no concept of homeopathic summit.

Brief Comparison

Symposium, a forum for discussion on a special topic between the participants, having specialized fields relating to that specific topic. Seminar is for creating awareness on general topics. Congress, a discussion on various topics belonging to different heads. Conference, to develop consensus for future educational planning without political needs. Convention, to discuss homeo Political points.Workshop, practical demonstration.

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Old 28th August 2001, 12:40 AM
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Thankyou, JVolkman.

It is the third time that Dr.MAS has gotten my name wrong and I was going to correct him, but you got there first!

I don't recall ever asking you for anything, Dr.MAS! I simply replied to kalid's request without ever referring to you. And I do not take kindly to your comment either (regardless of the winking face).

Kindly refrain from making personal references to me in future, and I will do the same for you.
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Jvolman and Simone!

Now after reading the post. It has been proved that you have no objection (absolutely not) on the views presented on seminars, symposiums and congress. The only objection, you have that I misspelled user name. I am sorry. I did not do it intentionally. It was a spelling mistake. Just like you did many times in your posts.
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