I have heard that the remedies really can't be antidoted too easily. However, I was on a remedy for a period of time that was working very well and decided to drink a caffeinated drink. Within a few sips I could tell it had been antidoted. I also had a client who was weeding the mint in her garden and could tell she had antidoted her remedy. I've head a number of other cases where things were going very well and then got antidoted, so I now take antidoting seriously.

If they absolutely can't stay away from whatever it is, e.g., a massage therapist whose clients insist on aromatic oils, then I go with the more frequent low potencies, but I don't see as deep and long lasting results.

Not every remedy can be antidoted by every substance by every person. It may only be a very small percentage, but there is no way to know ahead of time which people on which remedies will react to which substances.

I'd like to hear other people's experiences.

Shirley Reischman

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Shirley Reischman

As far as I am concerned it is coffee not caffeine that is the culprit!! Also I have never heard of anyone antidoting from garden mint. It's not strong enough in its natural atate. At least this is IMHO!!

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The remedy I antidoted was Lycopodium 10M perscribed by my homeopath. It was with two sips of Pepsi. I hadn't had that happen with any other remedy, only with Lyc.

The garden mint antidote was a client with fibromyalgia who had been pain free for four months. She couldn't figure out why all of a sudden the pain was back. When she came in the next day, we discussed everything she had done, eaten, drunk, etc. just before the pain returned and it really did seem that weeding without garden gloves and smelling the mint during that time was the only possible thing that could have made a difference. Within a few hours of retaking her remedy, she was fine again. She was on Ars 1M.

Also, the mint in my garden can be smelled several yards away, so there may be some differences re climate and/or species in different locations.

I had another case with bleeding hemorroids. He had done well for several weeks when he bought and started to use a strong after shave. The bleeding started up again within a few hours of applying the after shave and stopped within a few hours of retaking the Sul 1M.

Anyway, I know that these things can antidote some remedies in some people. I just don't know before hand which ones they are, so I ask people to try to avoid anything that can give them a 'buzz'.

Shirley

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Shirley Reischman

One shouldn't underestimate the concentration of ethereal oils in some garden plants. The smell of the "curry plant" e.g. resists even washing, and when thuja hedges have been cut, a nauseating odour fills the air for days.
Gardeners should be cautious!

I find that people react to certain substances if they are sensitive to them. Some people simply cannot stand certain smells, become allergic near various plants, or find that they absolutely must avoid caffeine in any form--tea, coffee, cola and other softdrinks, what have you.

I have personally never seen antidoting take place with crude substances, nor has it ever happened to me, though I am VERRRRYYYYY sensitive to all homeopathic remedies whenever I take them. What I have come to understand is that, if a patient has a reaction to a substance to which they have always been sensitive while on a remedy, and they experience "an antidoting", then the remedy may be partially effective, but it is definitely not the "right" remedy for the patient. The newfound sensitivity is then seen as another symptom, and it as a sign to keep looking for a better remedy--go back and reassess the case and ask some more questions. A well chosen remedy will then address that susceptibility to that substance.

Divina

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Antidoted my 200c remedy with a menthol cigarette. But, I am considered an extremely sensitive patient. Within 2 puffs I literally felt the remedy drain away.

Such things don't seem to affect other people I know.

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I agree with Divina that if a remedy is easily antidoted it is only a partial fit.Look for a similar remedy in this circumstance.

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Funny how my remedy did work, beautifully I might add, on pathology that had refused to go away previously once I stopped using menthol and/or mint in all forms. My remedy also alleviated a number of mental/emotional symptoms that had been around for years.

As it happens, this remedy is continuing to work and is continuing to clear very old symptoms.

As I have not drunk coffee for a number of years, I am not sure if this would affect me, or if aromatherapy oils have an effect. I do know that mint was an antidote for me. I have since stopped using mint toothpaste products, too.

I have to disagree with Divina's and Ricky's assertions that it means the remedy is only a partial fit. I have had a number of other remedies that were partially curative, but nothing that has worked so well (and so long) as this remedy [once I stopped antidoting the darn thing].

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Paul Herscu once told people in a seminar that his own remedy can be antidoted by chocolate! If he ever tells patients to stop chocolate, many of his clients will be gone!!

Another interesting episode was at my home. My partner got a stomach upset lying in bed. Her usual constitutional remedy didn't help. I was hesitated to giver her another remedy because she's on constitutional treatment from her homeopath. But the pain got worse and she resorted to peppermint oil in water internally (she's an aromatherapy student). It settled a bit, like 10-20% only, however. So, within 5 minutes or so, I knew I needed to give something. Then, while the whole bedroom and her whole body was still full of "peppermint energy", I gave her a dose of Lycopodium 30c. I asked how she felt after 1 minute. She didn't respond - she was fast asleep. The remedy worked beautifully!

Antidoting is an individual thing. My home is often filled with essential oils - she likes them. But, whenever there is real need for remedy and the right remedy chosen, homeopathy works in both acute and chronic conditions.

[ 13 July 2001: Message edited by: Arden Wong ]

My husband just started constitutional treatment but refuses to give up coffee or his ciggarettes. that is part of what is being treated is addictive tendencies. He is on Anacardium LM2. So does anyone have any suggestions for when it would be best to take the remedy or if it will even work. I saw results with my remedy within three days but he doesn't seem to be having many changes. I know the remedy is right. He is so the picture of anacardium and my homeopath walks on water as far as I am concerned. I plan to ask her what she thinks but i just thought I would get other thoughts on the matter.
Michelle