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Old 4th July 2001, 05:40 PM
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When I saw my homeopath she was doing most of the work on her computer as I spoke. After observiing alittle, it seems to me that all you have to do it type in key symptoms, like headache, anxiety, antisocial, thin stools ect ect ect. and then see wich remedy pops up the most for all the symptoms typed in. If this is all there is too it I could easily buy myself a homeopathic program, learn to use it and self perscribe.

Am I right in saying this? I mean it sucks for homeopaths because it could decrease buisness. But Iv alread seen my homeopath twise and its not cheap! I could have payed less for a program than I pay for one consultation, PLUS i could use this program forever and not have to revisit my homeopath for future problems.

Is there any other reason to see a homeopath other than - to pay someone to use a program so that the patiend doesnt have to?
Do homeopaths self perscribe?
Can anyone please recomend a good homeopathic program?
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My dear friend,
It may sound strange but in spite of using a computer programme which gives all the medicine for all the disease one may not be able to get the "RIGHT" medicine;especially if that person is "NOT" a trained homeopath.
Basicaly the art of prescribing doesn't lie in finding out the remedies from a computer programme but in Analysing and Evaluating the entire case.It's not like "A" for Apple and "B" for Baby.
While finding a similimum(the most right medicine) homeopath has to consider your total personality profile and your symptoms which are rated according to the importance.
Also homeopathy has a vast database of medicines..say almost more than 2000..Computer programmes just help to compare and eliminate remedies.
Only a true homeopath will know to antidote and compliment a given prescription;which is called follow up of a case.To decide when to stop and when to give higher potency etc etc.
So my view is "Self Prescription" is a "NO NO"for you unless of course you intend to read "Organon of Medicine" by DR.Hahnemann and some Materia Medica books and understand what exactly homeopathy is.Bottomline is "Believe in your homeoapth"

For a good Homeopathic software you can buy "Homepath"which has a good number of materia medica books and repertree and much more.
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A doctor who has himself for a patient is a fool.

Seems I heard that somewhere. Anyway, there is an art to case taking and analysis. All a computer does is repertorise faster than one can do by hand (which is a real blessing in a busy practice), but the remedy needed may be any of the top 20 or 30 that come up. Also, it's important to be selective in entering symptoms into the program and evaluating them.

For myself, a practicing homeopath, I am happy to pay my homeopath to do my case on a regular basis. It's impossible to be objective enough to treat oneself.

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I also see a homeopath. there is no way I would prescribe for myself as you don;t see yourself in the same way as others do. The homeopathic programme I use on my computer cost me the price of 35 visits to my homeopath!!! The professional programmes are very expensive although there are much cheaper ones that can be bought for prescribing ACUTE problems - not chronic. Although the computer may come up with say 10 remedies which cover a majority of the symptoms (rubrics) that have been put in, it takes years of training to be able to decide which of these remedies will be suitable for your patient. e.g. Sulphur often comes up as one of the top remedies but this doesn't mean it will be a suitable one for the patient in front of you. You must have a knowlege of Materia Medica as well. The computer is just one of the tools we may use to help us do a job quickly which would otherwise take hours of reseach.
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Hi Ricky,

I was just going to post this about Sulphur.

You saved my details & time.
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If you can afford it, MacRep is a terrific program for almost any level of expertise. If nothing else it gives so much information from MMs and Reps, just reading all that is on there is valuable. There are the Concordances so you can know what antidotes, follows well, etc. any remedy in use. You can click to show small rubrics or small remedies that does get you out of the "polycrests" if that is a concern. If you are serious and really wish to learn, it is a great tool to have. If you are simply hoping to save a few dollars for the cost of the visits, it really wouldn't be worth the investment. As mentioned above, it is best to have someone who really understands homeopathy handling your case. I really don't know much about the other programs.
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A program may help you self-prescribe for some acute problems, but even that can be difficult. As for self-prescribing constitutionally, the full saying is, "The person who treats himself (or herself) has a fool for a doctor and a fool for a patient."
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Dear HI,

I know it seems like your practitioner is typing in all your symptoms, hitting the "Analyze" button and Voila! The remedy appears! That's what I used to think too.

Lesson #1 is, that symptoms are down at the bottom of the hierarchy! At the top of the hierarchy is etiology (the cause), on-set (if sudden) and certain mental/emotionals. Here's why. We all have our weak areas. For me, it's my sciatica. The way I know I've got a virus is that all of a sudden I can hardly walk! For other people it's their lungs--the smallest stress comes along, and they've got asthma. For someone else, it's their nervous system; some small stress, and they've got an anxiety attack; in other words, the symptoms are not the center of the case; they're what ripple off from the center, like a stone tossed into a pond. We have to find out what the stone was! That's our case. The ripples are different for everybody, because
any stress will go right to our weak area, which is different for everyone.

So, rather than me repertorizing "Legs, sciatica, worse lying", I have to ask myself,
"What started all this? Oh, yeah, I've got a viral infection!" So, I go to the rubric "Fevers: viral". That's my case, it's not sciatica. I would check the materia medica to see which of these viral remedies best matches what I have over-all.
You have to find the center of the case.

Next, if you see a strong keynote of a remedy in your case, go for it! Nevermind repertorizing! Do you have a delusion that somebody is whispering in your ear telling you to commit crimes? Then here's your Anacardium! Do you have a fear of everything black? Then come and get your Stramonium!

Also, a delusion in your case goes right to the top! Do you have the delusion that you do not belong to your own family because you're so much better than they are? Then that goes right to the top of the hierarchy.
That's more important than all your symptoms!

Did you know that the common symptoms of your illness, regardless of how awful they are, are useless to repertorize? For instance, let's say you have food poisoning.
It's useless to repertorize "diarrhea", eventhough that's your whole complaint! First of all, again, etiology! Was it the water? Sweets? Fat? If it's fat, you must go right to Pulsatilla. Sugar, Argent-nit. Meat, Arsenicum.

I'm just scratching the surface here to show that we can't just make a list of our symptoms and enter them into the computer. If that is what your homeopath is doing, maybe you should find someone else. I've seen from your other thread that you are rather disillusioned. I'm sorry, I can't remember your case, so I can't comment on it or the remedy you're on, but, I hope I've somewhat explained that homeopathy is much more complicated than entering all your symptoms into the computer. As Dr. Roger Morrison once said, "Garbage in, garbage out."

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I have CARA and I love it. As a former software analyst, I looked very carefully at the three major players (MacRepertory, Radar and CARA), analysing them as I would have as a software analyst for any company I have worked for. CARA was far and away the biggest bang for the buck, so to speak. They don't do a lot of advertising, and they are not the absolute most sophisticated, but certainly have all the bells and whistles I need. It's the only software that allows searches on all repertories at the same time and has a completely intergrated search engine allowing seemless interface between the repertory programs and the materia medicas. You have a lot of flexibility in case analysis, the ability to grade and combine rubrics and keep complete medical history and case notes. It's also software that can start small and cheap for the non-professional and grow as the need arises; although, even the full blown professional package is less than any other on the market. Their support is also excellent and the software is intuitive enough that it's very easy to use.

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Ricky and Shirley,

Same here, I'm a CARA user! Now I know who to come to if I have any questions!

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