Jen, I use Vit C & B for my family for colds, and at first sign of scratchy throat, sneezes etc, we use tissue salts. Ferr Phos 6x at the start and Kali Mur 6x if there is mucous. One friend had recommended Olive leaf extract for chronic colds, but the kids don't like the elixer and can't swallow the gel caps - worked well for her and apparently strengthens the immune system herbally.

Cut up some fresh ginger and boil it in water for about 10 minutes until it is very strong and then drink some all day. This really helped me a lot when I was sick. Expecially before bed.

Yellow discharge and 4 o'clock agg, gives the possibilities for pulsatilla, lyc, or sulph. But whiny and sulky gives more for pulsatilla.
Carole Franske

[ 20 June 2001: Message edited by: cib ]

Dear David,

Suppressing by homoeopathy is not a common process.It can occur some times when you treat the case depending on one or two symptom without looking in to the case.

In acute cases we give importance for the present symptoms and usually gives an acute remedy.If the case is again and again repeating we can look for the patient remedy(constituitional or miasmatic) and give it to him at intervals(after crisis).They are generally transient out burst of psora.If any cause is found like exposure to rain or food deviation etc.. surely we should look into.If the case is allium cepa ,it should be given.But not for the name of disease.If the symptoms of allium cepa is there,it should be given without doubt.

The acute cases some times go wrong direction is due to the bacground of the patient(miasms)or wrong selection of the remedy(here it seems tobe).If the acute case is only latent outburst of psora it will go alone or by acute remedies indicated.Even sulphur ,acon or any remedy is suppressive when your selection is wrong and when it is not similimum it suppress.It is not the fault of homoeopathy but that of Dr's.

In this case the first stage described is not surely echinicia.Giving improper remedy will drag the case and tend to become chronic form.

The blind prescription of vit-c(ascorbic acid)is not good.The latest research shows its many costituents are destroying D.N.A and carcinogenic.The necessitty of vitamins is during its deficiency.

with regards
jayakumar

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I also saw Lyco in your description but is the sore throat on the right side. If so it could easily be that Lyco is needed at the moment. Do you feel that this is more than an ordinary cough and that it should be treated? Continue with the echinacea herbal tincture anyway.

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Look:

The child was given APIS 30c as an acute remedy to treat the inflammatory process created by numerous insect bites she suffered while on a camping trip.

When there is an inflammatory process as a reaction to anything, wastes accumulate in the body which have to be discharged. The body can easily discharge them efficiently when there is no great amount of toxins or wastes accumulated; but when there are more than normal amounts (like, say, when the body mounts an inflammatory reaction to a series of insect bites), the body needs to create a method to eliminate them: hence, the cold. Basic pathophysiology here.

Do you think it is a coincidence that the cold came AFTER the Apis, since the little girl was living with a family member who had the cold before the camping trip? If so, why did she not just "catch" it then, since she was "exposed" to the virus?

A "cold" after a remedy is given is a curative reaction. The aggravation at 4pm is typical for a child with a cold during the summer break--they have a cold, but go out and have a great day playing and hanging out with their friends all day long (and this is exactly what this little girl is doing), then finally conk out around late afternoon. It is not something to prescribe on here. The cold is the last part of the process which was aided by a dose of Apis; it is not a pathological condition, rather a sign of Bre's strength and health.

I think its great she's managed to do so well all on her own--no tylenol cold, no homeopathic remedy; just a little echinacea for support. It shows her body's become strong enough to do its own daily, healing work...just as its supposed to.

Divina

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Hi Divina ,
Having followed Bre's case closely for so many months, I would think what you described above is indeed the case.
Perhaps Jayakumar hasn't followed the whole case - hence, his attempt to help in his post.

In any case, Bre IS making progress - the China WAS good for her (contrary to what Jayakumar might've thought from the scanty info in this thread) - she made tremendous progress on China, in fact. Anyhow, I agree with Divina - let the cold run its course...it isn't always necessary to run for a remedy for every wee thing that crops up.

I do agree with what Jayakumar said regarding prescribing on the totality of presenting symptoms....but in Bre's case at the moment, she's not in a state that warrants a remedy, I don't think.

Anyhow..take care of my girl, Jen . Let us know how she is today, if you see this - since it's been a coupla days since your last post, okay.

I'm wondering about the remarks on the Vit C, etc...can you quote some references that support your remarks on the dangers here, Jayakumar? I hadn't heard of that before - so any links would be appreciated!!

All the best,

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Hi- Bre is doing great. She slept a little better last night. Cough was short lived and really the only thing left is a runny nose which is clear again. She is full of energy and had a great day yesterday.

She had the Apis at about 4am and woke with the cold around 8am.

Thanks for talking me through this guys. I am proud that she made it through with just a normal tolerable cold and that mom let it ride without much trouble. Thanks again!

Lisa,

In fruits and veg. we can get vitamins.The differance between Vit C and above is one is total food in biological and chemical relation with in itself but in case of Vit C,it is 'one antioxident 'in isolation.The action with in the body is breaking down of oxygen,damaging DNA directly and free radicals of it act on major poly unsaturated fatty acid in human plasma to lipid hydroperoxide.which further degrade in to DNA damaging agent called genotoxins.This is the study by Ian Blair,centre for cancer pharmacology.

Divina,
I don't know about the old thread of this case.I just read it from this thread and thought it a new case .You are persuading it for long time I understand.Though I have differance of openion regarding the last sentence "no tylenol cold, no homeopathic remedy; just a little echinacea for support." Echinicia just like any other homoeopathic remedy we prescribe not by theories like 'support' but by similimum.
O.k.Iam leaving this thread .

jayakumar pannakkal

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Hi Jayakumar,

Just to tell you that it is understood by all on this thread that the echinacea we are referring to is not homeopathic echinacea in potency but the herbal tincture which is excellent for the immune system and does not interfere with homeopathic remedies.
Regards, R.

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