I just read an article listed on the web site "shirleys wellness cafe" about the effects of soy. It stated that babies who are fed only soy formula are recieving the equivilent of 5 BIRTH CONTROL PILLS A DAY!! Is anyone else familar with this info?

No wonder I have so many frigging health problems!

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I don't know about the birth control pill thing but I know I hate formulas. There are more nutrients in the science diet dog food my beagle eats!! There are many alternatives to formula. I used fresh goats milk and added spirulina. My daughter got green milk but was and is healthy as a horse!!!

The Price Pottenger Foundation for Nutrition has been trying to publicize this information for years. Not many people know this, but most of the Soy grown in North America is genetically modified and treated with hormone rich pesticides and fertilizers. The soy grown and eaten in the East has been traditionally very differently used and grown from the methods used here--a fact many nutritionists, naturopaths, and now pop-medicine have chosen to ignore...resulting in even more hormonal turmoil, especially for women, as we are usually targetted for the whole "phytoestrogen" barrage which is now being used to promote soy consumption.

You can learn more about this from PPF's website, at http://www.price-pottenger.org.
Barb, were you fed formula made from soy? That Melissa Assilem article on folliculinum I mentioned on your other thread has an excellent description of the effects of extraneous hormone introduction on the female body, particularly the false estrogens. Hope you take a look at it--I'm sure soy ingestion, as well as hormone overuse in all our food sources, is responsible for the growing incidents of ovulation/post partum pain and disorder many women experience.

No need for anyone to take the Birth Control Pill to be exposed to oestrone--you can get it through almost all your food. It does pay to be careful about what food is eaten, and how it is raised or grown.

Divina

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Barb
I get the impression that your were fed soya formula and I think I remember you saying you have very poor teeth? I have seen other children fed soya milk that received too much sugar in it and very low calcium and other nutrients also suffer from very poor teeth. I would be interest to know if others have found the same. Just for information sake one mother I know gave her cow milk allergic children slightly cooked blended vegies instead of milk substitute formulas and has very health children with strong teeth. A variety of vegetables is desirable but of course introduced properly to the child. They will provide an abundance of protien, vitamins and minerals. A little udo's choice oil added will give the essential fatty acids that are not in formula but are generious in breast milk. The natural magnesium in vegies prevents any constipation problems too. The quality of calcium in vegies is excellent and well absorbed and even the absorbtion is increased when cell salts are given. Vege feed babies do very well along with grains. The allergy problem shoud be treated with a constitutional remedy.
Carole Franske

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Divina, I am interested in that article. Could you repost where to find it?

My daughter #3 seems to have an "estrogen allergy" of all things! I think it was due to my drinking a soy protein shake every day while I was pregnant with her.

She breaks out from estrogenic foods, such as pears and mangos. (Geir figured that one out.)

You know, she is the one with bad teeth as well. Hmmmmmm.....

Are you talking about Melissa Assilem's article?

I don't have the URL handy at the moment, but you can go to homeopathyhome.com's homepage and look in the Resources link, then select the Articles link. It will list a number of articles--look for the one called "Folliculinum: Mist or Miasm" by Melissa Assilem.

Never heard pears or mangos to be particularly estrogenic...but there are plenty of foods grown with fertilizers and treated with pesticides containing hormones. Wouldn't surprise me if everything grown by agribusiness didn't have this "extra" systemic additive. When I was a kid, I picked pears on our farm every summer, which had been sprayed with the usual barrage of chemicals while they grew...and invariably I'd suffer from itchiness and rashes from touching the fruit. As for mangos, they come from the same botanical family as Rhus Tox and Anacardium--if you read up on Mangifera Indica, the remedy made from Mango, you'll see that "break outs" (similar to what you'd experience if you had an attack of poison ivy, except in its most pronounced stages mango would cause swelling too) are one of its effects on the body...many people can safely eat the flesh of the mango, but they must avoid contact with the skin. Apparently, the skin of the fruit and the bark of the tree (from which Mango I. is made) contain the toxic oils we associate with Rhus tox and anacardium.

Have you considered the effects of flouride on young teeth? Perhaps your child has been given too much of that, in toothpastes and in dental treatments...

Divina

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Oh dear I ofen eat the skin of mangoes especially those yellow and red ones. What symptoms should I have got??????
I actually eat the skin of most fruit including kiwi and am not too good (= rarely)at remembering to wash them. Yes I know about everything that is meant to be on the skin!! However I don't remember the last time I got a tummy infection from eating food abroad. I reckon my stomach is a cast iron one for bugs!!

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Ricky, you don't peel your mangoes? You don't peel your kiwis? Don't the skins scrape going down?

Extraordinary! What can I say, some are more susceptible than others. We're constantly told to peel the skin off all non-organic fruits and veggies, if possible, as the fruit seems to be the place where the nasties dwell. But I know in Britain organic produce is more the norm.

As for the symptoms of mango, they include: itchy, blotchy, welting red rashes, with edematous patches. Swelling, redness and rash particularly of the earlobes.

After these symptoms, the remedy looks an awful lot like anacardium--same memory loss, same "dividedness" of the self--good self, bad self; first half of life/last half of life; same problem with tests, examinations, ordeals; and as well, food is the one amelioration to all complaints; "plug" sensation anywhere in the body.

Divina

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I have heard of others who don't peal kiwis. Ricky, you're not alone.

I can't think of the book at the moment but it listed estrogenic foods. Natural Healing with Foods or something like that. Dessie has a copy of it.

She's only two, no fluoride treatments. And she uses non-fluorided toothpaste. My sister and I had bad baby teeth. Perhaps I shouldn't be so hard on myself....

Will look for the article. thanks.

How I wish organic foods were the norm in UK!!! Itis better than it used to be but they are in very limited supply and I will only buy them if they are around the same price as ordinary!!

BTW - plug sensation can also indicate Thuja!

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