Hello,
I have just started a new job and am very stressed, to the point of quiting because of my anxiety disorder (I get headaches, feel like crying but cant, and this strange gagging- like i want to vomit... there is no rational reason I would feel this way-in other words my job is not that stressfull). Anyways, I would hate to loose this job and am looking for some kind of medication to keep me less stressed during work.
Someone recomended Bach Flower Remedies, wich are deluded 1 part in 100,000 (or 0.001%) wich sounds alot like homeopathy, except the perscription qualifications are much much less detailed then classical homeopathy. for examble, Rock Rose just says take if you suffer from terror, panic and nightmares... instead of asking a hundred questions about your life.
Would taking a Bach remedy interfeir with a homeopathic remedy like Selicea 200c?(wich im currently 2 weeks into with no results)?

Or is it better to take a classical homeopathic remedy, to calm myself during work? If you can suggest anything please do,,
any advice apresiated

Dear Hi,

If 2 weeks have gone by and you have not responded to the Silica in the least small way, I don't think it's the correct remedy; not to mention the fact that it's not listed for your complaints. In our Repertory, we have
Mind, crying, difficult-Carc.(1), Ign.(1),
Nat-m.(2).
Also, Mind: crying, sad, thoughts, at; but is impossible to cry-
nat-m.(2), nux v.(2).

With the stomach symptoms being part of this, I would tend to think along the lines of nux vomica. But in answer to your question, yes, you can take Bach Flower remedies and they won't interfere with your homeopathy, and the one I would take would be Rescue Remedy--the anti-anxiety remedy.

To really be able to help you we would need to know a lot more about you. For instance, are you a chilly person or a warm person? What are your food desires and aversions? Describe your thirst. What started this whole anxiety ball rolling? That would be good for starters.

Snoopy

Dear Hi

You can take Rescue Remedy as needed. You could put a few drops in an Evian bottle and sip it all day if you wanted to.

I checked my computer program--I did a search for:
"Headache-Desire-Bang-Head"
and it came up only with Strontium Carb. I would need more information from you though before I would feel comfortable recommending it.
Maybe you could describe your headaches and tell how this anxiety disorder got started.

Regarding the irrational fears you mentioned,
which one best describes you:
do you feel persecuted by your co-workers?
do you feel despised by your co-workers?
do you feel your co-workers are laughing at you?
do you feel that you are friendless?

When you have the gagging sensation, what do you do to alleviate the discomfort? For instance, do you drink cold water, or eat something, or what?

What's your worst time of day (or night)?

What do you like to eat?

Snoopy

Have you spoken to the homoeopath about this feeling of being laughed at, of being mocked? How far back into your life have you experienced this - has it ever happened before? When they mock you, what is it about - what sort of things do you feel they are making fun of?

This seems to me to be central to the case, and Silicea does not cover it. What is the issue with work - how are you coping with the job itself? What is your self-confidence like generally? How do you cope with responsibilities and tasks elsewhere in your life?

These feelings are strong indications for one of the Baryta remedies, the best known of those being Baryta-carb. Silicea and Baryta-carb can be confused in prescribers who do not dig deeply enough into the case.

Could you talk a little about what sort of child you were, and how you coped with schoolwork and other children. (Don't we ask alot of questions?)

Snoopy, I was wondering about all the closed questions you ask. Were you taught in college to ask open-ended questions?

[ 27 May 2001: Message edited by: DavidJK ]

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Dear David,

Yes, I know we shouldn't ask "Yes or No" questions. However, Luc De Schepper says that when you find a main rubric that applies to your patient, take out the repertory and go down the list of sub-rubrics with him. Like you, I believed that the delusion was at the center of this case, and I wanted to make sure I knew what the delusion was--I didn't want to look in the wrong rubric. In other words, does he feel mocked--laughed at--or persecuted; or maybe something else.

I also tried to get him to tell us how this all began; and basically, I find if you ask too many questions at a time, you don't get them answered; for instance, this is the second time now I've asked him to tell how all this got started. But since he doesn't know how important this question is, he forgets to answer, concentrating on what he feels is urgent in the case.

Also, if I'm considering 2 remedies, and one is Nux vomica, and I ask a yes-or-no question like "Are you chilly", I know that if he says, "Oh no! Not at all! I'm hot! I kick the covers off at night!" Then I know I can put Nux vomica aside. So, if you see me ask questions like that, I may be trying to decide between the top remedies I'm considering. Though, to be sure, it would be great if HI answers all your questions because we know very little about his case. And like you, I don't believe Silica is the remedy, and I too remember coming across Bar-c. while going through the delusion rubrics that applied to him; and I remember thinking, If we're gonna prescribe Bar-c., we're gonna need a lot more information!

Snoopy

Thank you both for your replies,
I think I'll take your advice and order the Rescue Remedy, after reading what its for it does seem like its for me. do you know if the effect wears off? I need somthing to last me for 3 months..
I guess I'm a chilly person. My hands are always cold. At work I have alot of irrational thoughts and fears of being hurt emotionaly by my coworkers (its a new job in an office), like them mocking me, even if they are just joking it hurts me, and i get these strange headacnes from the anxiety wich makes me want to bang my head against the cubicle wall hard.. I get aggitated and irratable. my coworkers can tell im stressed and ask if everything is ok. I do have an anxiety disorder wich they wouldnt understand so I get frustrated at the situation, not being able to tell them whats really bothering me,, and letting them assume whatever they assume. I can see myself acting standoffish or fake or strange, and its like i can just watch myself from the inside, without being able to controll myself... Flushing has also been an emarasing problem but this only happens during winter time (wich is like 5 months over here in NY state) Im creative and artistic. sensitive, i seem cheerfull to others on the outside- when im really hurting inside. other times i just look plain stressed on the outside. Lately iv been having this strange gagging feeling in my throat, like i want to thow up but theres nothing to throw up..... wierd.
Oh and i seem somewhat dumb to others there because i totaly loose my consentration.

I am seeing a homeopath and this is the second remedy so far. I have not been taking it every day, just 1/2 capfull, and then another 1/2 capfull (of pellets i believe?) 3 hours later.
Personaly, i was begining to think that 200c wasnt strong enough, because so far both remedys have done nothing...
I want to give homeopathy a fair chance, but i have to admite im getting alittle discouraged (probably because i havent experienced any physical effects)

Thanks again

Snoopy- I'm sorry for not answering all your questions, I did forget most of them when it came time to reply,, this time I wrote them all down.
*I can't sleep at night if I'm too warm, I stay in this half awake half sleep state. But I can sleep when its cool.. I very hot in heated rooms in the winter, I flush much worse than others and my face stays flushed for hours after I leave the room. But my hands are freezing... I really dislike the heat in the summer time, my face gets all shiney or oily.. and I feel drained.
over all I'd say I'm chilly, because of hands and personality.
*Food desires- crackers and serial i guess. I dont eat sugary snacks or milk like I used to because I have to use the toilet right after ( I may have a digestive disease, Im getting tested for Celiac disease currently, other problems are excesive gas)
Food aversions- hmm,,,sugar and milk, processed foods, bleached foods, or anything unhealthy.
*I think, my anxiety started very early in childhood from emotional abuse by my father and/or both parents. He would scream at me, spank me for practicaly nothing,humiliate me in front of others,,,slap me around. At times, when my mother was gone, I was terrified by him. I remember wanting to run out of the house and keep running, but i was afraid hed catch me and beat me. (age 5 or so) When i was in elementary school- I was picked on alot- my guess is because of poor social skill from living with parents. I was called 'gay' because I had a very strong concious and wouldn't join in the mis-behavior they would,,,(posibly because I was very scared of punishment,,, from home)
In high school i became a smartass and began making friends at first, but when they found I didnt stick up for myself I became the center of there abuse. I made no close friends all threw HS. The anxiety disorder began ,as far as I can tell, when I started college. I was afraid of getting to close to people for fear of them hurting me. I acted kindof fake and still do, sordof like too nice, or somthing,,,,
*the head-aches feel like, 'pressure'aches. I cant concentrate when i have them and i become irratable. They go away a short time after I leave the situation,or it might stay for some time but to a lesser degree. I just feel like banging my head of clenching it in my hands to relieve it..
*Regarding irrational fear- I will have to go with,, 'I feel that I am friendless' I seem to get stressed when others are talking around me casually, but Im ok when everyone is sitting quietly. Im also afraid that someone might kiddingly MOCK me,, but I take it too personaly, Im afraid of embarasment...
and Im afraid that they just pretend to be nice to me, but when im not around they talk negatively about me.
*When my gagging sensation comes, sometimes i gently touch or rub my throat, or just wait it out, sipping water helps for a second or three.
*My worst time of day is the evenings I suppose, I feel good in the morning when I get enought sleep, and sleep in (i dont like getting up before sunrise)

DavidJK-
*To be honest, I don't remember if I told her about the feeling of being laughed at or mocked, we talked about so much. I might have mentioned it.
*These fears go back to when I was 14 or 15. I was teased everyday at school. And humiliated by my father earlier than that,,,
*When I feel they might be mocking me, behind my back, its about me acting strange (being so anxious or uptight or serious at work), or quiet. they might say 'i dont like him' I think im afraid that if they knew about me, and my pathetic life,, id be rejected. not-understood, or mocked.
*Im coping with my job by reminding myself that these fears are irrational, that the thoughts im having arent helpfull or healthy, and that i dont have objective evidence that any of my fears are true,,(basicaly these are some coping tequniques Ive learned, and am still learing, from therapy. its actually a tape serries made by a psychiactrist) These do help alittle, but lataly its been very hard...
(this happend in past jobs Iv had, its like a recurring theme, except before i would quit after about a month. i dont want the same thing to happend here)
*My self-confidence is good when it comes to my ability to do things. when it comes to social interaction my confidence falls dramaticaly.
*I think I handle other responsibilities, like choirs and school, reasonably well. I get good grades and Im a hard worker.
*When I was a child, i coped with school work,,,by asking my mom for help I think?
I coped with children by making them laugh, i was(and am) a riot at times.
I was the shy kid in school, the 'angel' untill i turned 14. -then i became more of a wise guy. this happend because all the guys who intimidated me had moved to different schools. and i made more friends by being the funny wiseass.

Something Id like to add, now that Im living back home with my parents i find they irritate me very much. Like I cant tolerate them. (just dont like them) even though they act ok to me when im around them now,,but this is probably normal. (except Iv been avoiding and almost ignoring my dad because he still insults or treats me disrespectully.)


Thank you all for caring

Dear HI,

Thank you for replying. I'm sorry to hear about the traumatic childhood--there's an awful lot of that going around, I'm sorry to say! Probably even in the lives of the co-workers you think are so together, they probably envy you for something you're not even aware of! I used to worry about my appearance until one day I looked around and noticed how really awful people look! Tatoos all over their bodies, rings in their noses, hair dyed orange...I said, "What am I worried about?!"

Anyway, would you describe in more depth the physical pathology you have--this digestive problem, for instance; what is striking about it? What are your bowel habits like, what are the problems there? You say this is from a habit you had of eating too much sugary stuff? Anything in specific, like ice cream, donuts, twinkies? Any pains? What are they like?

So, would you say that you're a chilly person who is nonetheless better from open air? Cool air? Cold air?

And when you say, "I'm chilly because of my hands and my personality, what do you mean by a chilly personality?

Thank you for continuing to answer these questions.

Sincerely,

Snoopy

Snoopy-
My digestive problem used to be(maybe 3 months ago); bowel movments after meals, 3-4x a day. greenish in color and flaky, as though it isn't solid but will fall apart, wich it does when i flush. also it bubbled,,like it was fermented. It happend very quickly if i drank milk or ate any kind of sugar. (this whole problem started about 2 years ago, around the time i started taking accutane-a very strong acne medication)
For the past three months or more I have been taking probiotics (acipholous)(spelling?) after my homeopath suggested i have candidia overgrowth. (i have taken many antibiotics in the past)
I also do not eat any milk or sugar (except plain yogurt occastionaly, and maybe some fruit every now and then)
*Now the color has changed to brown - dark brown, and is smooth and solid. Occasionaly it is thin. I have to go as soon as i wake up and then again after i eat breakfast. sometimes again in the evening. I still have gas. Currently I am seeing a gastrologist and may posibly have Celiac Disease (unable to digest wheat,rye,barley-gluten) But I wont know for sure untill 2 weeks.
When i was in my teens I would eat alot of icecream, salt n vinigar chips, caramel,chocolate, fruit candy, gum, candy bars, pop tarts, milk shakes. you could say i had a sweet tooth...
Now I have a very strict diet and it is not a problem for me. When i eat those sugary things now it makes me feel sick. I prefer feeling good after i eat. Before these 3 months I would feel my lower right side spasm as though somthing was bubling or a muscle spasm.. the same with my lower front abdomen. this has not been happening at all lately. Rarely, (maybe once or twise a year) i get bad stabing/acid pains in my stomach. i feel like i could faint sometimes.
I would say that I'm a chilly person who is better in freh air. I love fresh air. and sunny days. (except i cant be out in the sun now,,, because of rosacea)
Cool air is nice. I an uncomfortable in cold or hot air. I say I have a chilly personality because I think i am standoffish and irratable around people i dont know well.
Im not the friendliest personality(i dont aproach ppl),,but if people aproatch me i am cheerfull and try to be friendly.
Um other physical things are frequent sinus infections, mucus in my lungs,, i loose my voice sometimes,,(wierd). I still get some acne even though im 21. Iv found if i avoid sugar the acne is controlable. the skin on my cheeks is very dry, and flaky somtimes. oh and my tounge seems to have a white coating.