I am currently taking Sepia. My homeopath has me on Sepia 1M. I take it once a week three drops. I didn't notice it doing much of anything and was waiting to get my period. I haven't gotten my period yet but have the week before PMS and have noticed extreme hot flashes, night sweats and just overall irribality and tiredness that only seems to be during my period. I was on this remedy a long time ago(30C), about a year ago and after the first month noticed a big change for the better. The second month it seemed to revert back and not be as good but not as bad as before I was on it. So the new homeopath felt why not see if we go up in does if that will help (someone has mentioned that to me from this sight and he agreed.) The hot flashes I am having now seem more than I ever have had before. Could that be that it is working? He seems to think so but also isn't sure.I will seem him in two weeks and he said to stay on the remedy. Does this mean I have to wait till next month and see if I still have hot flashes etc?

[ 22 May 2001: Message edited by: Danielle ]

[ 22 May 2001: Message edited by: Danielle ]

I think you are getting a proving of the remedy by taking it too frequently. When I perscribe a 1M, I give one dose and then wait at least a month or more to evaluate the results. There can often be an aggravation of physical symptoms during the first few weeks, but the person generally has an increased sense of well being.

However, I think the approach of giving the last remedy that worked, but in a higher potency, is correct. If you quit repeating the remedy, I think the proving symptoms will decrease and you will find you have a positive reaction to the remedy. You should let your homeopath know what you are doing and why. I would wait a month from the last dose before doing any serious evaluation of the results.

Shirley Reischman

[ 22 May 2001: Message edited by: sreischman ]

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Shirley Reischman

Can you explaine what a prooving is. My homeopath didn't even mention this to me. He felt the hot flashes etc. were a good sign that I was getting better. Since I am still learning about homeopathy I am not sure what to think. Before I ever entered into homeopathy I had hot flashes. They went away for awhile at first but have come back. As a matter of fact I think i noticed them coming back when I first restarted taking the sepia. And that was about three months ago. before I started going to this homeopath. I think before that time I just felt very crampy and Sepia was recommended because it worked so well the first time round.

I agree with everything that Shirley has said.
A proving is when you have taken too much of the remedy and you start to experience symptoms that are in thatremedy and that would emerge if a healthy person took it.

If you started with the hot flashes after you took the 1M I would say that the potency was too high and that you should have gone to the 200 potency.

Please don't take anymore of the remedy. Your homeopath may wish to take the potency back down to a 30 by giveing you one dose of the 30. Do get in touch with him/her.

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RSHom - Registered Homeopath

I was reading in one of my homeopathy books that if you prove the remedy it's ok and things will get better once you stop taking the remedy. Is that how it works?

[ 23 May 2001: Message edited by: Danielle ]

One other question. If I wanted my old homeopath to give me notes that he has on my case would he do that? I know when I go to a new dentist I can get my file transfered to the new dentist. Do homeopaths do that or do I just have to remember everything from back then?

Well I don;t think it is OK to prove a remedy. Which book did you find that gem in?

It is not usual to pass notes from one homeopath to another as most homeopaths wish to take the case afresh. One homeopath may pass over the remedies that have been given to another if that is requested.

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RSHom - Registered Homeopath

Dear Danielle,

I don't know where these homeopaths come from. Hokey Smoke! A cardinal rule in homeopathy is this: As soon as you react to a remedy, either for better or for worse, stop the remedy! Especially a 1M. You can repeat a 30, especially in acutes, but a 1M? Not in the beginning anyway; you have to wait and see what the first dose will bring. It's never great when a person gets worse; it means the prescriber has over-prescribed; but, sometimes once the remedy has been stopped and the "aggravation" has worn off, an improvement will take place if it was the right remedy.

A proving is this: A healthy person takes a homeopathic preparation of an untested substance to see what bodily systems it will effect. The prover takes careful notes on all the ways that the remedy causes him or her to change from her normal self. The provers who took Sepia got hot flashes and other symptoms that confirmed that this would be a great "female" remedy; so, when someone like you comes in with menstral problems, she's often given Sepia. But now, you may be doing an unintended "proving" of Sepia.
So you must stop the remedy, and as someone previously suggested, a dose of Sepia 30C might stop the proving. Yikes.

I hope your homeopath can straighten this out.

Snoopy

Yes, stop taking Sepia and wait.

As to homeopaths transfering files, ask your prior homeopath to send copies of his file to your new homeopath. He should be willing to do that. However, before asking, check with your current homeopath to see if he wants them. I always like to see them, but not everyone does.

Shirley Reischman

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Thank for all your advice. I did stop taking the Sepia IM but I am surprised my homeopath didn't tell me to stop. He didn't mention the word "proving" to me . What he did say is if you feel very uncomfortable than don't take it but thats up to me. He also told me it could be a good sign just like he said about my skin breaking out. I am frustrated because this is the third homeopath I have been to and it seems like I have such a simple case, (female problems and allergies) and I have been waiting and waiting for results. The first homeopath seemed to help me but he never went up in does on the sepia so when it stoped working he went looking for another remedy. Now that I have gone up in does I noticed the right side of my face broke out extremely bad and is healing very slowly. My hot flashes seem a lot worse and they had been totally gone for a while. I don't remember when they completely went away, that is why I wanted notes from my last homeopath because it has been about a year. But I did stop taking the Sepia IM and wonder what is next when I go. I won't really know until another month if I have hot flashes and and cramps and bloating and other stuff I get duiring and a little before my period. All other times of the month I seem fine. So does that mean my homeopath waits a month to see what happens or does he go ahead and prescribe another remedy? For the last 5 days I had another interesting symptom but with my period everything seems normal to me. My eyes got all glossy for about three days and then yesterday my neck got very stiff and I felt like I had a bug or something also very tired, then I felt my eyes getting better and my neck was no longer stiff, as if what ever it was left me. Since then I feel a little better. But I never know with my period because I do get back pain sometimes and sometimes I get aches and pains. So I am seeing my homeopath the second week in June but it does frustrate me. I once was well and everything seems to have reverted back.
Maybe I was really never fully well to begin with and he only treated the surface? It seems like you have to know a hell of a lot to even just go to a homeopath. You can not just put your complete trust in someone. You have to be up on what going on too. When I first took the LM potency I didn't notice a thing. I waited about three days and told him I don't feel anything. So then he told me to take once a week three drops. I did start feeling very tired but that was all. Now that I have PMS I fell the hot flashes etc.
SO I am back to the same question am I on the right remedy and how will I know? The only reason he put me back on the Sepia is because he agreed with someone on here who said to go up in does if you felt it worked before. He had thought of another constutional remedy to give me but said lets try the Sepia again. After I read up on the two remedys I took before Sepia and Nat Mur I felt I could totaly see the two remedys as me. But the other night I filled out this 10 page questionare just to see what they say my constutional remedy could be and it came up "Lyc" that is the abbrevation. He said he would like to take a look at my book when I see him. I don't know what remedy he was thinking of for me but he kept going back to my hot flashes and said I see another remedy but your hot flashes lead me to think Sepia.
I know I will have to talk to him when I see him but it leave me frustrated. I guess for him it is a lot harder seeing a person who has been to two homeopaths before. Someone who has never been is probably less complicating.



[ 24 May 2001: Message edited by: Danielle ]