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Old 2nd May 2001, 04:49 PM
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I LOST MY SISTER 7 MONTHS AGO AFTER A LONG ILNESS WE WERE VERY CLOSE AND IAM HAVING GREAT DIFFICULTY TRYING TO LIVE WITHOUT HER. I TOOK IGNATIA INITTIALLY (6c 4daily 1week) AND FELT BETTER THAN I HAD IN A LONG TIME,MANAGING TO GO BACK TO WORK WHICH ALSO HELPED. ICOULD COPE UNDER STRESS CALMLY.
NOW AS SOON AS I AWAKE IN THE MORNING IFEEL STRESSED ABOUT GETTING THROUGH THE DAY WITH SLIGHT NAUSEA/FLUTERRING/GONE FEELINGS IN MY STOMACH. AS THE DAY PROGRESSES THESE FEELINGS
COME AND GO BEING CALMER AT NIGHT.
EVEN THOUGH I`M EXHAUSTED I CAN`T SLEEP UNTIL EARLY SO I HAVE LIGHT HEADEDNESS AND HEADACHES ALOT OF THE TIME.
IN GENERAL I AM QUITE A NERVOUS PERSON NOT CONFIDENT PREFFERING TO BE ALONE OR WITH PEOPLE I KNOW. I GUESS ITS FEELINGS OF INFERIORITY EVEN THOUGH I HAVE A GOOD JOB, FREINDS ETC. SHOULD I TRY IGNATIA AGAIN?
I ALSO FIND THAT I FORGET HOW TO SPELL WORDS OR SPELL THEM THE WRONG WAY ROUND AND CAN`T FIND WORDS WHEN I`M SPEAKING!!

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Old 2nd May 2001, 06:00 PM
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Take Natrum-mur 1M, once only. That should solve ur problem.
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THANKYOU SO MUCH
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Old 2nd May 2001, 08:45 PM
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Lorna - hope you don't mind my asking a question on your thread.

If a grief remedy is given immediatly after a trauma and emotionally the patient feels well - is this suppressing the grief??

Should remedies for grief only be given if it is severe and life altering or debilitating??

_by the way, yea me- I was thinking Nat Mur too.
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Barb...consider the grief as causation too tho...she's moved into a closed-off state (I also thought Nat-Mur..studying that one at the mo ) - and often Ign and Nat-mur are confused with each other. To differentiate (and this is just a few) - f e.g. Ign will cry when telling sx but NM is more silent (walled-off = hold things in to protect themselves from more hurt). Also Ign can become Nat-mur - as the disease state progresses . NM is the chronic of Ign (can't find it in my notes..so going on memory..someone correct me if I got this backwards!). Sepia is also closely related but it isn't appropriate in this case (from what I understand so far).

Perhaps Dr B will say more concretely why he thought of NM (the keys )- whereas I'm too busy to look it all up . But the thing that struck me was how close she got to her sister and then lost her. This is very NM to close themselves off and develop pathology once they experience some grief, trauma, hurt, rejection, etc. That was what stood out to me the most. Also her preference to be alone - or be only with those she knows (very NM). And the spelling thing can also come up in Nm...what do you say Dr B? Please feel free to correct any mistakes in my observations .

Ahhh - the days when I'll know these rem's well .

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Old 3rd May 2001, 04:46 AM
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Hi Barb
Thanks for your reply
Yes I would agree with not suppressing grief. I was fine for a week, I guess because we had everything planned together and she died the way she wanted to (she even told me a few hrs before she`d wait for me). I took ign.6 wks after her death because I was completely unable to function, and didn`t want the antideppressants I was offered by my GP (which most definately would lead to suppression)
I`ve lost both my parents some years (both from cancer) ago and a nephew 27yrs old (from leukaemia) 18 mnths before my sister, but I never felt anything like it.
The effects of the ign. didn`t last long it just helped me to cope better from to day to day for a short while.
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Wanting to be alone and the sensation that the heart is fluttering is nat-mur.

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I have also found that Ignatia is needed for more recent grief which then goes to a Nat Mur state as suggested above. However I would only give Ignatia in a case like I had the other month of a lady that came and said that she has had this that and the other symptom only since her father died a month ago. 1 dose of ignatia 200 cured all these symptoms. As has been stated , grief is a normal process that people have to go through so Ignatia shouldn;t be given routinely.
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Lorna

It sounds like you have had more than your share of grief

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I`ve taken nat mur 1m 3 days ago (and a week off work as I get kind of panicy when my mind goes blank trying to remember peoples names, conditions etc and things that are normally routine and easy for me.)
Don`t feel any difference yet but I realise I need to give it time.
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