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Old 10th April 2001, 04:29 AM
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I was recently prescribed Lyc 1M as a constitutional and told to take 7 drops/ week for a month. I have taken the first dose and so far noticed an improvement in my condition. The homeopath that I see is only available once a month and I was unsure as to whether the remedy should be repeated. Any anwsers are appreciated.
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Just watch carefully, when improvement stops then you may need to repeat it. Batter to check with you homoeopath
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tHIS IS NOT THE MODE OF ADMINISTERING lYCO 1M
THIS MAY CAUSE YOU IMPOTENT OR SOMETHING NEW
STOP THE DOSE AND WATCH PROGRSS TILL THE IMPROVEMENT STOPS
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Old 11th April 2001, 09:55 AM
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pksinha -- what is the mode of prescribing for lyco 1M ? Should I be on a high dose ?
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Hi Simone,

For the sake of clarity, were you prescribed a 1M or an LM potency? I'm curious because it is a liquid dose you're taking, and I'm wondering about how you've been asked to administer the dose for yourself.

Repeating a 1M remedy is often a difficult thing for some homeopaths to understand because it is such a high potency, and most people wish to just administer those as infrequently as possible. However, some homeopaths use 10Ms and CMs liberally for particular patients and obtain good results. There is no set way to do this: it is all dependent on the patient and his/her needs. But, just to be clear on this--classical homeopaths don't administer remedies in this way as a rule, because the tendency for a proving to take place is very high. That is why Dr. Sinha warned of "impotency" or inability to act. It's a very powerful potency and it acts quite profoundly at 1M, so he's wondering why it needs to be given over and over again in your case.

Now, if this were an LM potency, the once a week dose regime would be a little more comprehensible, but still rather routinist--and anything routine is very poor homeopathy.

The very best thing to do is contact your homeopath and ask your questions directly to him or her, then weigh the response you receive. Certainly you should be able to contact your homeopath at any time with questions such as this--phone conversations should not be out of bounds, nor should direct emails, if he/she can be reached on-line. If he/she can only be reached once a month, then I would seriously reconsider the safety of taking any remedy with such doubts lingering in your mind, particularly when you can't address those doubts sufficiently through your practitioner.

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Hallo Simone
I understand your concern.
If you are supposed to take this remedy(liquid form) once a week you should:SHAKE (succuss) THE BOTTLE at least 10 times every time before taking the next dose.
this procedur was used by Hahnemann in the time from 1835 on , and is described in the cronic disease.
Hahnemann used already the 200c and higher, which were handsuccused.
Still I would limit this aplicationform to 7 -10 single doses.
I wish you a speedy recovery, Hansnull
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Divinia -- The writting on the bottle say that it is 1M, and I was told to take 7 drops under tongue once/week for a month. I wasnt told to success the remedy at all. From the consutation I can remember Her saying that due to my case being chronic and me being strong in character etc she would prescribe a 1M, we did discuss 200C, but she settled on 1M. I will try to contact the homeopath today, and as yet, my condition stiil seems to be improving.
Ps the practitioner is qualified as Naturopath, Homeopath remedial massage therapist , but says that they dont get too much homeopathy. Your right, I should seek classical hom, but they are like hens teeth in this part of town.
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any homoepathic medicine in any potency has some rule of repitition of doses .wait
till the action of medicine is not over .the pt. will not show further improvement . Lyco is very deep acting medicine it may cause organic changes to the body (read Kent's.Farrington,Tyler,Hahnemann......)
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Hi Simone,
The general rule in prescribing is to 'wait and watch'. This applies equally to LM's as it does in Centesimals.
I no longer presume to know ahead of time when a patient will need a further dose. If I'm prescribing for a chronic case I may start with LM 0/1 and I ask them to phone me 3 days later and we can then see their receptivity, as well as check to see if the right remedy was prescribed. This is like a 'test dose'. I learnt this from David Little's course www.similimum.com
Hahnemann gave clear instructions in the 5th and 6th edition of the Organon as to why the remedy solution must be succussed. The life force is not a static condition. For example, you are not the same person you were yesterday. To prescribe the exact same remedy ROUTINELY WITHOUT MODIFYING THE DOSE will actually have a disadvantageous result. You may even see accessory symptoms of Lycopodium manifest (as if you want more bloody problems!). Stick to the classical homoeopaths mate.
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Hi again, Simone,

Well, I think you should just wait and watch and stop taking the remedy any further, if you are feeling an improvement from the dose.
Don't take the remedy on a routine basis as that could really cause some problems for you.

I'm really mystified as to why the remedy was prescribed this way, and I don't want to speak badly of naturopaths, but I know from experience that unless they have specialized in homeopathy and practice it almost exclusively you would do well to avoid them unless you seek out allopathic treatment. I was shocked to learn that the naturopathic college in my area only requires 4 months of part time study in homeopathy (over the course of their 4 year program) from each student, and then each one can claim to practice it as part of their naturopathic repertoire of modalities. Well, 4 months of training in homeopathy will not bring you up to the competency level you could achieve in
reading Dr. Mirman's book, Homeopathy Demystified. And you can read that book in about 20 minutes. It's fine as a book to help you know what's involved and what homeopathy means, but you are not prepared to treat people at that point.

Naturopaths are far preferable, in my opinion, to conventional doctors--but it is still Allopathic medicine that they practice. Homeopathy is a profoundly different medical system that really can't be contained in the allopathic paradigm. It demands a commitment in terms of practice and study, and it demands specialization in order for it to be practiced well. In NA, you can differentiate good homeopathic practitioners with ND status because they must qualify for a DHANP--this means they have spent the greater part of their ND training focused on homeopathy, and have achieved the same level of competency and training as a D. S. Hom or R. S. Hom designation outlines for homeopaths--which is at least 3 years of full time study in homeopathy, including 500 hours of supervised homeopathic clinical practice.

That said, I do hope that will be the way you go with your studies...and that you continue to see improvement with the lycopodium (but please, don't take any more). Do check out David Little's site, as he has one of the best lessons available on LM potencies, dry doses, and liquid potencies too.

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