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Old 30th April 2001, 05:38 PM
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Hi everybody,
My daughter, 4 1/2 years old is having troubles adjusting to the new family dynamics after her sister was born last August.

Her physical health is very good, she has a strong VF, responds quickly to the usual colds, gets them heavily and is over and done with fast. Emotionally however, she's still chewing on some issues.

History:
Normal pregnancy, natural birth, no vaccinations, 2 years of breastfeeding, chicken pox at age 2. One fever seizure age 2 1/2.
Physical appearance:
very thin, long arms, legs, fingers, long slim feet long narrow face, big blue eyes, brown curly hair and dark, very long curved eyelashes. 35lbs 3'2" (16 kg/104 cm)
She is a very good eater, loves to eat meat and eggs, but also east veggies. Eats a lot, but gains weight very slowly (always been low in weight and long in height)

This is how we know her:
She is normally a very intense child, very fidgety, restless and fast moving. (hyperactivity) She is very talkative and highly intelligent. Her ability to reason things out surprises us daily. She has a tendency to be very dramatic and hysterical and usually has trouble to find her way back into reality when she's having a "fit". A warm bath usually brings her back gently. She loves to be on stage and be admired. She is very musical and loves to act and perform.
She's always been very attached to her mom. She still sucks her thumb and hates to be alone, wants to be and play with somebody else (preferably mom) all the time. She is very sensitive to pain, noise and has a vivid imagination. She's afraid of the dark.
She craves sugar, but it makes her even more hyper and less in control of her emotions. Her emotions seem to overwhelm her with intensity and she can't find a better outlet than screaming.
She can be very stubborn (persistent) and has to have it "her way".

The symptoms which intensified since the birth of her sister are:
-Intense jealousy, wants mommy to herself.
-Intolerant of contradiction, does not listen when we say "no"
-Spaces out, doesn't listen when we ask her to do things she doesn't want to do. Instead, does the opposite.
-Throws a temper tantrum, if we insist, during which she throws herself on the ground, screams in "waves", forces out tears, throws things, starts hitting mom or dad. Has tendency to bite.
(Time-outs provoke a screaming fit and she obviously does not want to be alone)
-Manipulative
-Creates situations to provoke mom to choose her over her sister - which does not really happen and then she is confirmed in the jealousy pattern.
-Malicious anger, provokes confrontation.

I tried to list it all and would appreciate your help, either with rubrics or remedies.

In the past, she had received Tuberculinum 200 C (age 2) and Nat.Mur 200 C (about 6 months ago) both with positive results.

Claudia
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This seems to repertorize out quite well:

Mind:
Loquacity
Precocious
Fear alone, dark
Sensitive, oversensitive to noise, pain
Obstinate headstrong children
Jealousy
(also: jealousy in children when a new baby takes the attention of the family away)
Deceitful, sly
(also: Inciting others)
Anger, temper tantrums
Shrieking in children
Malicious, spiteful, vindictive

There are a lot of rubrics here, but nevertheless they all fit. The above, along with the love for attention 'on stage', makes hyoscyamus a good possibility.

Good luck!
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FYI--there are many homeopaths in Eugene, if you would like to work with someone. Dolfy Freinquel, RSHom(NA), CCH is someone I know well and who also treats my own family.
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Don't know if this may help in your situation, but I've found a useful 'tactic' to use when kids are winding up to a full blown kicking and screaming tantrum, is to say "That's really amazing how you do that, can you show me what to do?" and then get down on the floor beside them and start kicking and screaming too.
If you're lucky like I was (Phew!) it can take the heat and drama out of the situation, and they might even start laughing at you. Hmrph!!
I guess it's kind of homoeopathic. Whereas sending her off to a room if she's fearing abandonment (on some level?) and hates to be alone is kind of allopathic.
I don't mean to be simplistic here, it's just worked for me before.

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Don't know if this may help in your situation, but I've found a useful 'tactic' to use when kids are winding up to a full blown kicking and screaming tantrum, is to say "That's really amazing how you do that, can you show me what to do?" and then get down on the floor beside them and start kicking and screaming too.
If you're lucky like I was (Phew!) it can take the heat and drama out of the situation, and they might even start laughing at you. Hmrph!!
I guess it's kind of homoeopathic. Whereas sending her off to a room if she's fearing abandonment (on some level?) and hates to be alone is kind of allopathic.
I don't mean to be simplistic here, it's just worked for me before.

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In terms of remedies, Hyos is probably an excellent choice, and one of the first to consider in this sort of "new baby arrives" situation. Another remedy that may look like Hyos is Lachesis, both jealous, restless, loquacious, bad tempered.
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I would like to help but is difficult to prescribe on this info because the symptoms used as a guide before the tub and nat mur are not clearly stated.

Are all the symptoms of concern now new or more prominent old ones.
Tub could cover these symptoms so what was tub prescribed for at first? If old symptoms is she worse now? Is this an agg or a proving of tub. Just a few things to consider. It seems like the person who prescribed the first remedies should be consulted again. Often 1M tub is better than taking 200 if it was needed.

Can you ask her how she feels when she throws herself on the floor. Try to help her explain what it is like. Perhaps she needs help to express these feelings. Ask her what she thinks of the baby in the home now. Ask her if she would like to help more with the care of her sister. Try to see if she is being made an needed part of helping you with her little sister. Perhaps this will help her to feel better about herself and her new place in the family with more security and consequently ease her fears of not being important anymore. After all a new baby takes a lot of time and time that was previousely all hers.

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David(s), Thanks for the message - I'm reading and checking Hyos. out. I'll know more in
a bit. I forgot to mention that Lach was given earlier with no result.

Chrisg, Great tip, been there, done that, sometimes it works, sometimes it aggravates.
The stage has to be her's, if I claim it, she'll get furious. Humor is a wonderful distractor
and works sometimes too. As mentioned, when she's totally out of it, a warm bath and
wetting her hair helps. I'm not talking about a regular temper tantrum as one can
sometimes witness in the supermarket. My daughter goes to the extreme of choking,
sometimes even throwing up. Even rescue remedy doesn't reach her at times. It's really
like a fit, like the fuses have burned. - As regards the time outs, they have low priority, as
you remarked, they don't do a good job. Sometimes I call it "mommy time out" just to
give myself a break !

cib, Thanks for your input. Can Tub give an aggravation over 2 years after taking it ? I
wouldn't have thought that possible. I have probed before to find out what she feels when
she's having a fit, she called it "its all too much, I must scream". Of course she helps with
the baby, otherwise it would certainly be much worse. She's very overbearing and
possessive though and I have to protect the little one until she can fend for herself.

Thanks for all the input though, I appreciate it and am taking in what I haven't considered
yet.

My repertorization has shown Stramonium to be quite strong, followed by Tub, NuxV
and Hyos. I'm now into feeling my way into each remedy and comparing it to my
daughter

Claudia
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Tub should be given in higher than 200C when needed because using 200 often gives or brings out an old pneumonia, consequently some homeopaths use it only in pneumonia cases.
Tub is usually given in 1M or higher, preferably CM when needed to prevent such an agg.

Tub agg - two years latter ? yes, it is maybe possible, or it could be that tub 200C was just too low a potency used at the time, which is most likely, especially if tub was the correct remedy.

A proving of tub - two years later ? causing a new illness now ? It could be but very unlikely if only one dose was given. If the tub was given repeatedly, then yes it might have been a proving.

Stram? I got it too in reportizing. You will see why I didn't choose it though.

"I'm not talking about a regular temper tantrum as one can sometimes witness in the supermarket. My daughter goes to the extreme of choking, sometimes even throwing up." The reps say: vomiting - anger after; cham 3, coloc 3, nux v 3, valer 2. This gives chamomilla as the remedy now, so use one dose 200C. Chamomilla is particulaarly suited to little children. I would use a childs remedy first.

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