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Old 21st April 2001, 03:10 AM
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Does any one have any experiences to share in treating this problem of de myelination by
the immune system itself?
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Old 21st April 2001, 09:49 AM
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Yes. I have used lifestyle change, with diet and supplements. If one continuously takes supplements they will see some improvement only as long as they are taking the supplements. So hommeopathic remedies are essential to bring the body into balance to make a permanent cure. Several remedies will be needed, given singularly over a period of time. As to how long it will take to cure depends on the stage of the illness and the individuals strength of their vital force. Many cases because of the weakened vital force and immune system need to proceed slowly. Then one may not have the restrictions they previously had as to diet. They will usually be able to come off all supplements too when cured. The problem of de myelination my occur because of inability of the body to utilize essential fatty acids to build up the myelin sheath. This may be overcome with homeopathy.
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Old 21st April 2001, 10:52 AM
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Whilst I agree with Carole that homeopathy can be a marvellous adjunct in MS, I think that to talk of "cure" may give false hopes. Whilst many strange things are possible in life, I believe that - once the myelin sheath has been destroyed, it cannot be restored. Can homeopathy grow a new leg? But in any event, I believe that homeopathy can help someone cope with this disease and promote a high level of physical and psychological well-being. Maybe this is what Carole means by "cure" anyway.
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Wex, you may have a point--but then again, it all depends on every individual patient. Cure is definitely possible, however, and I personally know of 3 cases (each patients of homeopaths I know) who came for treatment of MS and have never been troubled by their symptoms again, even years later.

If we could see more people with disorders such as MS right from the beginning, the success rate for treatment using homeopathy would be very high. As usual, conventional treatment might hinder homeopathic efforts, so it really is sad that so many people exhaust conventional methods first then approach alternative practitioners when their ailments have been compounded. It is true, the human body cannot regenerate a leg; but a myelin sheath might well be another matter entirely. We don't really know what the body can and can't do, in this area, with any certainty. We just know conventional treatment can't encourage the body to do this.

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Divina, what you say is so true of many chronic degenrative diseases - they come to homeopathy as a last resort after conventional medicine has failed to help them, at which stage it can be a struggle to get a good result. My own MS cases have been well down the line - sure if you catch them early, it would make sense that you can use homeopathy to achieve a long-lasting remission (OK, cure!). But we just do the best we can in the circumstances. I wonder if anyone has had any success treating (homeopathically) MS patients who are on parenteral Imuran (azathioprine) since these may come our way increasingly?
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Once again, we are confronted with a disease name and an attitude which that disease engenders. If, however, we dare to put that disease name aside, and just take the case, what do we have?? We have a person with symptoms. Who do you have in front of you? How is the person expressing their disease?

Okay, so you get the point.

My *MS* case was a Nat mur case with carcinosin undertones, still waiting to see what develops. I can think of no reason why homeopathy will not be effective in this case.
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Thank you all for your replies I agree that we get these chronic cases too late and sometimes with a lot of iatrogenic damage to boot.My patient is in the chronic progressive
stage so things like beta interferon doesn't hold much hope.I am trying the rebuild approach with calc,silicea,mag,efacids and
metsulfon with C. This is not homoeopathic but hey you start somewhere.I would appreciate any suggestion re homeo remedies that you lovely people think I should read.
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Using Os's approach--to see each patient as just a person with symptoms--is the best approach. Find remedies to address the totality of the case, and don't forget about the mental/emotional symptoms and their importance.

In the cases I wrote about earlier, one woman's MS symptoms were temporarily palliated with remedies chosen to address those symptoms as a priority--but when the homeopath had an opportunity to see her interact with her husband, he realised that her mental/emotional state was demonstrably more like Pulsatilla. It was that remedy which finally "did the trick" for that patient.

In another case, a friend of mine gave his father a dose of a remedy he determined to be his dad's "constitutional" remedy...and he was in his second year of study at the time. His father had just been diagnosed with MS. He was given a dose of Nat Mur. There has been no recurrence of the illness, doctors believe they made an error interpreting his diagnostic tests.

In one other case, a young woman (early 30's, ran her own massage therapy clinic, had overbooked her patients and not scheduled enough time for her own homeopathic consultation...) spent her entire time in consultation talking about how her family didn't realize how much work they were creating for her, how they were such a problem for her that they were the reason she had started to become ill. She repeatedly spoke of how others were to blame for her various states of unpreparedness, illness, lateness, etc. She was given lycopodium, and has also "recovered" from the MS threat.

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In my class at homeopathic college there is a young woman who came in initially with a walking stick with MS. She has been treated homeopathically and is symptomless. She has since got married , had 2 children - which is meant to exasperate the condition- and the MS has still not reappeared!!
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