Guess what? Guess who is sick again? Guess who is gonna have a nervous breakdown?

The baby started vomiting last night - threw up twice but was acting fine. This morning when I got her from her crib she had vomited in it and had a very smelly, foul diaper. SHe has had 3 diarrhea diapers since, yellowish and very very foul. No fever yet but she's napping now and I am willing to bet she'll have one when I get her up. I am not really asking for a remedy, but would like to ask this....

It was about 4 weeks ago when she had her HIB vaccine (this was the 3rd in the series - she has had no reactions to any vaccines before) It was a few days later that she started her first illness with high fever, vomiting and diarrhea, also a slight pimply rash on her abdomen. She got better and was well for 5 days or so and then had high fever and crabby - this was diagnosed as ear infection - she was doing okay for about a week and then this started last night. I am wondering if I should give Thuja or another vaccine related remedy? I don't want to play around with a bunch of remedies but am wondering about the vaccine issue.

I don't want to say for sure though that it is vaccine related because, my oldest has been ill and so have I, so obviously there is some nasty bugs going on in my home. The neighbors kids have also been ill but most of the illnesses are respiratory not intestinal.

Also can anyone suggest some super immune boosting foods???

how the baby perspire !

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Dr.P.K.Sinha

Hi Barb,
I do feel for you, since my kids are constantly sick with one bug after the next. Both of mine have not been vaccinated, but I do believe that vaccines can weaken the vital force. That way the child "catches" more illnesses. I have a 7mth old baby and I've put her on Baby Vitamins. It's called "Infant Care" from Twinlab - The only infant vitamin product that I could find. I also eat according to the bloodtype diet and keep this diet for my baby too. I find that she doesn't take quite as long in "shaking" the bugs as she did before, but I'm just guessing that it is the vitamins, it may also be that as she grows older, she becomes
stronger overall.
This Winter is one of the tough ones it seems with many viruses out there. - Spring's around the corner !
My heart goes out to you - from one exhausted mom caring for her babes to another !
Claudia

Oh Barb, Bless your heart!! One illness after another.

I seem to remember you posting something not that long ago about reactions to vaccines. David Kempson replied and I thought his posts made a lot of sense.

I wonder why are you still using vaccines?? Is it because of pressures from the hubby?

Barb, please read up on it - there is a lot of material written on the subject and I for one, will never allow my children to be vaccinated ever again. Vaccinosis is real and vaccines do cause problems in a lot of children!

Have a look at some of these links, Barb:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/

http://www.nccn.net/

And there are some more..but I can't seem to find them...but one of those will probably lead you to others .

Do you have Chronic Diseases Barb? If not, you can read it at Homeoint!! You can download it from there.

Have you located someone locally to try yet??
I hope you get sorted soon .

Thoughts are with you!!
Lisa


[This message has been edited by Lisa~Annan (edited 16 March 2001).]

Here is one on HIB especially..with heaps of info and other links .

http://web.one.net.au/~pienaar/Hib.htm

All the best,
Lisa

Thanks guys

Lisa, there are several reasons why I vaccinate. Family pressure is one but so is fear.

I do know many folks who've had bad reactions from vaccines but I also know a family who lost a child to Pertussis and well, you know, it scared the **** out of me.

I also know of 2 families who had The Department Of Child And Family Services called on them to investigate neglect. In both cases the families pediatricians placed the calls because the mothers would not vaccinate. In one of the families the child was removed from the home while investigatio0ns went on - she was returned shortly.

Can you imagine????

Thanks for the site info I'll check it out

Say a prayer for us.

Dear Barb,

I have spoken to nurses here who said that many of the sick babies with whooping cough they saw had had one or two of the shots. They were told it was only because the babies hadn't had the full three shots.

So how many times do you have to come in contact with a disease to develop immunity in the real world ?(not the world modern medicine wants us to believe in).

You really are not having much luck are you? The baby hasn't been given any remedies recently has she? You may all be ultra-sensitives.

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David Kempson
Dip.Homoeopathic Medicine
Member A.H.A(Australia)

Dear Barb,
I fully understand the fear - believe me. I was born there, grew up there and lived there most of my life! I know the pressures!

Hence, the links I sent . There are ways round vaccination in the states, or so I'm told. Perhaps JVolkman, (queen of info and links on the bb , lol) might know where to look.

I yielded to pressures with my first child, but not with my second - and the fear goes only after gathering the information you need to dispel those fears.

Also, on the other hand - what you said above (about the child dying of pertussis) - we had a baby in our family die of a vaccine reaction but of course, the conventional docs would NOT admit it could have been the cause. Death occurred within 6 days. THAT is scary as hell to me! Also, if you read the info on Sherri Nakken's (sp?) site http://www.nccn.net/ (BTW: she is a Registered Nurse! who has seen many children suffer the effects of the whole vaccine drama!!) you'll find enough info to get your started in clearing away those fears.

I sympathise with you...but let me tell you, from where I'm standing now (and it isn't to many years ahead of where you are in this dept)I WISH I could go back and undo the damage I believe the vaccines caused in my daughter. Oh, and after her MMR with 2 boosters - she CAUGHT MEASLES and was the WORST case of the 3 of us. Funny how those vaccines work. Funny how she is struggling in school to do basic writing skills....and the list goes on.

Anyhow, just proceed methodically and try to inform yourself so you can operated out of a base of info rather than fear .
Good luck,
Lisa

That measles vaccine...I really wonder what kind of BS we're buying into at all about vaccinations...particularly for that "disease"....

Measles is a very quick, easy childhood illness that we are all meant to experience. It should last about 3 days to a week, give the childhood immune system its best and most important "work-out", and initiate the more complex aspects of left brain development. That is the function of that illness!!

Mucking all of that up with a vaccine only benefits the vaccine manufacturer. Lisa, I'm not surprised your daughter is having the trouble she's experiencing, after being "safeguarded" against a disease that is quite a necessary "evil"!

Just this week I learned of (yet) another child who, at the age of 3, suffers from myoclonic febrile seizures which "just started out of the blue"....or, more accurately, following one of the vaccination rounds kids his age go through. I asked his mom if she could see a connection between the time the seizures started to become commonplace and a vaccination...and sure enough...He's been lucky in that there has been no brain damage--but every seizure is unpredictable, and carries that threat.

Barb, I hope you do take a look at Sheri's site--she has been working as an advocate and expert on this issue for almost 20 years now, following a career as a pediatric nurse (which she quit after she realized her whole function consisted of pushing those vaccines on every child). You have a very good tool in homeopathy, so you don't have to worry about ailments like pertussis (which is only becoming prevalent again in immunized populations!!), as you can treat very effectively with good remedies.

At the very least, this experience should alert you to the fact that your daughter can have very bad reactions to vaccinations...so you will need to think seriously about avoiding them for her in the future.

Divina

Hi Barb,

Here is another link re vaccinations which is worth taking a look at www.van.org.uk/.

I haven't had either of my 2 babes vaccinated against anything due to my brother dying from a whooping cough vaccine over 30 years ago (the medical profession actually owned up to that one!). But death is only the extreme end of the scale - there are many other bad side effects of vaccines which are not immediately apparent - just because a child has no seemingly ill effects after a vaccine doesn't mean to say that it is not in some way damaging the child's immune system or causing harm.

Anyhow the more I read up on the subject the more convinced I am that I have taken the right decision for my children - but I understand that it is a very personal and difficult decision for parents to make and I went through months and months of dilema before reaching my decision. Fortunately most healthcare professionals seem to be on my side and have been very supportive and have never made me feel that I have made a wrong decision - a recent survey of healthcare professionals showed that over half of them would not give their children the MMR jab at the moment.

I also know that if at any time I change my mind (which I doubt very much) and wish to vaccinate I can still do this at a later date. I still have trouble believing what I read about the US that vaccination is mandatory and children can be taken from their parents accused of neglect (although I don't doubt for one minute that it is all true).

Good luck to you and your babes - life is a never ending circle of smelly nappies and cleaning up vomit, sleepness nights etc in the early days but already my kids are growing up too fast (Louis aged 2 and Olivia aged 5) - oh to have a small babe in arms - what heaven - must stop all this brooding now - hubby has had the snip so no more babies.