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Old 1st April 2001, 04:07 PM
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Snoopy and Divina,

Thank you for the hopeful words regarding MS and homeopathy. My homeopath would be happy to see him but my husband is very closed to anything 'alternative'. It's a shame since I think his rather extreme characteristics would make prescribing fairly easy. However, this is a person who insists "Change is not possible." He is a very rigid mathematician (no offense to the non-rigid ones!) who foolishly married an artist.

Needless to say, I have tried very hard to get him to try homeopathy and other 'alternative' modalities.

Do you know if there has been anything written on MS and Homeopathy? The guy always needs proof.

Do you think it would be appropriate if I tried posting his case sometime? He would never take the remedy and, besides, clearly needs to see somone on a professional basis, but, I know I would find it very instructive.

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Divina, I certainly agree with you about the situation many of us women find ourselves in. It's funny, I've done a lot of 'work' on this issue and still I see that there are layers that need peeling. I honestly find it to be an exciting process. You are right, there is a wonderful silver lining. We seem to think alike.

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Complete - Mentals
AVERSION homeopathy, to (6)
1 caust, 1 hep, 1 lyc, 1 nit-ac, 1 nux-v, 1 sep

Personally he sounds more like Kali with the rigidity!! However Causticum is a BIG remedy for MS.
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Mind mathematics aptitude for:
cocc, coff, lach, nux v

Perhaps we could cure it!
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Dear Contenta,

Yes, tell us your husband's symptoms! You never know, it might be a clear case and you can put his remedy in his...whatever mathematicians drink! It kills me, people (usually men, let's face it) who are a burden to their families, and won't do anything to help themselves recover!
If it's the wrong remedy, what will you have lost? Just keep trying, at least you'll be giving yourself hope!

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Contenta,

Look at my post in the thread "Nuro-----something" I forget what the rest of the title, but in my post, I outline the kind information we need to take a case. The common symptoms of the disease aren't much help to us.

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Ricky, Anna, thank you for your efforts.
I checked out caust and cocc and, of the two, caust seemed more likely.

I think I will take Snoopy's advice and do this more systematically. In fact I had been trying to find that message, you'd think nuro would have rung a bell.

I'll get back to you in a day or so when I've done my homework.

thanks again,
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Hi Contenta,

Though it is interesting and wholly satisfying to apply the tools of homeopathy to understanding your hubby, I do have to stress something. As you improve and become stronger on your remedy, you can be sure that a dynamic change will take place in the relationships you have with everything and everyone around you. This change will affect even your hardheaded husband (god help us all if he is italian !), as he will have to contend with who you really are and the new terms on which you confront life. Perhaps at that point it will be easier for him to see the need for him to open his mind up--to you, to the world, and even to homeopathy. Only then will he do so.

You hit the nail on the head when you said he doesn't want things to change regarding his illness--not the way he chooses to react to it (or not react to it), and the reason for this is something only he really knows for sure. Maybe he needs to be ill and needs someone to cater to him with his illness...that need and desire is what needs to change, and it won't change without his own effort.

Ever read Carolyn Mas' book on the role of illness in our lives? According to her, people do not become well until they are ready to assess the role that illness plays in their lives, and prepare to eliminate the need for that "role". Many people hold on to their illnesses so that something for which they've longed can finally be fulfilled--eg., if someone feels lonely and uncared for by a mate, they may use their illness as the means by which their mate will spend a great deal of time tending to their needs. Same thing happens to those who are insecure and need to feel as though they can control or manipulate others around them...or dominate them by monopolizing their time and energies. All of this can go on quite unconsciously, you know, and as soon as someone is ready to face truths like these then the illness can actually be "let go" more easily. I thought of the book when you mentioned that your husband kind of wants you to "be his assistant", even though you really wish he could manage without you. That is why you felt such a freedom when he was off on his work, and such a trauma when he returned and it was "business as usual".

Anyway, my sentiment is that there is no point forcing change on him...he has to want to change himself. Many people have solved inadequacies in their relationships once their remedies have allowed them to reasses their situations, and exercise a newfound freedom to react in a different way. If this were to happen for you, your husband would have to adapt. Real change in the world starts with real change in one's self.

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You talking about Caroline Myss, Divina? I read her book - if that's the one - and it was wonderful ...

The chapter on Woundology (a term she coined) was an eyeopener and so well put .

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Yes, Carolyn Myss!! Silly me...

A very good insight there. I don't know what to make of her "ability" to diagnose just from observation and listening to a person talk...but I do think she is dead on about the way people live with illness, and the stunning decisions we all make and uphold long past their usefulness.

Lisa, thanks for pointing out the correction --I think its a really great book to get your hands on, Contenta mia, so if you do go looking, please look for Myss and not Mas.

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