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Old 3rd March 2001, 11:08 PM
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Would someone be so kind as to look up the remedies in Murphey that have this?
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I believe this is also an indication of anaemia so check on it.

Murphy - Food
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1 arg-m, 1 arg-n, 2 ars, 2 calc, 2 elaps, 1 eup-per, 1 choc, 1 lept, 3 MED, 1 merc-c, 1 merc-i-f, 1 nat-s, 1 paro-i, 3 PHOS, 1 sil, 3 VERAT
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Thanks, Ricky

I was showing the ice chewer Med in Clark and they were reading the Mind part and said of "thinks some one is behind her, hears wispering" that that happens to him a lot. Also, he said feeling or knowing things before they happen frequently happens to him.

He has had frequent, sometimes daily headaches for 30 years. He said there is no rhyme or reason...no connection to time or food. they are usually frontal headaches but they have been in different parts of head over the years.

He has never had a headache when he goes hiking at high altitudes...but thats when he is on vacation so there are no job stresses at that time.

I asked him if he thought his father might have had Gonerrhea...he said funny you should ask cause his father told him he never had that but he had a load of stories about his friends in the army who had it. He dad was obsessed with the subject of who had it and who, no matter what, never got it.

That reminded of the story about the patient who came to the office wearing a shirt with tiger lilies on his shirt and that ended up being his remedy. Tho, that connection is probably a long shot.

So the question is...is this pointing strongly toward Med...or is more info needed. What would distinquish Med from Phos...cause I know phos has that clairvoyance, too.

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Dear Carol,

If he's obsessed with gonorrhea, that's good enough for me! Is he a "night person"?
Does he have a craving for oranges or orange juice? What about green fruits? Is he warm-blooded? These are all signs of med.

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Also fear of the dark which comes out as staying up all night in clubs etc. They also have a thing about the sea. A symptom which I have not seen but is while documented is sensitve soles of the feet. They swing one way and another with moods. Also when a person has a problem identifying with their sexual leaning.
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Med is often a person of extremes - eg very sensitive to others and then very cruel. loves animals, can also be cruel to them. excells in some things, stupid at others.
The baseline is that it is a sexual remedy - either they are highly sexed and can express it or it comes out as violence, cruelty or some extreme behaviour. Med also tends to rheumatism, can have gap teeth too.
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Could that extremeness be expressed in his horrible unending headaches.
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The person craves oranges and green fruit. I don't think they are highly sexed. Is warm blooded. No problems with feet..or fear of dark. They do have diabetus type one. Mother died of cancer shortly after delivering person. I'm trying to convince him to go to medical doctor who is homeopath.
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Carol, it would be the best thing - this is a case for skilled prescribing.
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Carol,

Your patient has lots of major symptoms of the medorrhinum--the ice chewing, the delusion that someone is behind him and that he can hear them whispering; he's a "night owl", desires unripened fruit and oranges, and is warm blooded. There is that odd obsession with gonorrhea that his father talked about constantly--and which still figures prominently for him.

I'd want to see some other confirmatories--like examples of violent behaviour or anger, leaning backwards in order to pass stool, or that other behaviour which is so marked in medorrhinum: the "discriminating taste" which is meant to distinguish the patient from "others who are less worldly".

Remember that the pathology we see so clearly in the nosodes also come up throughout remedies that correspond very clearly to that nosode's particular miasm--so we see many symptoms which look like medorrhinum, for example, in pulsatilla (compare them--there is only ONE difference: the issue regarding the desire for green, unripe fruit, which puls does not have!); or in lachesis, which has a more mesmerizing or seductive quality than the medorrhinum remedy (hence that locquaciousness--which often makes lach look like an extremely compelling phos!). So it is really important to have a close, thorough look at the patient. So far, the medorrhinum looks like an excellent choice for your patient. Have you given the remedy yet?

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