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25th February 2001, 01:17 AM
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Don't let that "female remedy" business stop you....if it fits the case, it fits the case. Perhaps this acute is relevant in the case to point you to a more appropriate remedy than the Stram, particularly if another dose of the stram has produced no improvement. Divina 
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25th February 2001, 05:22 AM
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An acute often calls for another remedy. Try to look for a complementary - esp Calc. What is the issue at school? Are they afraid it is contagious?
A remedy I have used for impetigo with good effect is Cicuta.... Exudation forms into a hard lemon-coloured crust. Chronic impetigo. Pustules coalesce into thick yellow massive scabs <head and face. I have used this remedy in people with no neurological symptoms at all, but all have been very averse to company. And I would also ignore the "female" remedy idea. This is a misunderstanding, that a remedy that often strongly affects the female organs is only needed for women. This is also bias in prescribing by some old practitioners. ------------------ David Kempson Dip.Homoeopathic Medicine Member A.H.A(Australia)
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25th February 2001, 10:08 AM
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Louise, we need more info to give anything with a degree of certainty.
Murphy lists about thirty remedies for facial impetigo and eight of those for impetigo on the forehead. Is it a return of old symptoms? Are there any other symptoms accompanying that recently surfaced? Sulph, Ars, Calc, lyc are the remedies which cover facial impetigo and follow Stram. I recently had impetigo and I know how difficult it is to get rid of without the correct remedy. My GP said I MUST use antibiotic cream, but I didn't. I kept it under control with the procedure outlined below, using at the end of de-crusting neat myrrh oil alternating with calendula tincture until I found the correct remedy. You need to wash the crusts with hot/warm water several times a day, taking away all the crusted exudate to minimise spreading over the face. Wash your hands thoroughy after this because impetigo is contagious.
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25th February 2001, 12:55 PM
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Dear friends;
My 10yr old has had an outbreak of 'Impetigo' which originated on his forehead, and which I intitaly thought was a graze. Now it is a big brown, yellow scab and quickly spreading over his small face. He is 'constitutionaly' Stram. and this I have given (1M) a few days ago, but with out any improvement yet. Still spreading. Our homeopath is out of reach, for stupid reasons, at the moment. What I was wondering is: Does he prehaps need an acute rem. like Dulc. which is within the Solinacea family and contains impetigo sympts? However I've learmed that Dulc is a female rem. Any views on this please? I know from experience that the acute does not need to be listed within the MM for it to do the job 'constitutionaly'; and the boy has done well on Stram. 30, 200.& 1M is as high as we've gone. But I wonder has he outgrown Stram with this outbreak and other sympts. cured. Basicaly the pressure is that he's getting flak at school for his scabby face; what are the options at this point without danger of the-big-bad-suppression? Yours uncertainly, with gratitude, Louise.
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27th February 2001, 03:49 AM
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Thanks very much for your replies.
I am trying to understand what is happening with this impetigo, not to ask for perscription; I will let the homeo. make a decision(when I get hold of her!)so I'm using this space as a sounding board to try to figure it out meantime; hope you all don't mind. It makes sense that the Stram has done well and now he needs something different. This is a new sympt. for him, indeed in this house, but I have heard of many cases among children recently; I wonder is impetigo the new head-lice or thread worm, in effect. It's difficult to know how long to allow Stram. to prove it's no longer effective, against the pressure of the 'unsightly' skin. It's been 6 days, small new bits are still appearing, not very rapidly but still... Thanks for drawing my attention to Cicuta. 'Honeycomb like crusts, which fall off and leave a bright red and smooth surface' sounds like it,the scabs loosen until hanging, so not exactly fall off in a one...However he isn't adverse to company, popular boy who likes people around. I am keeping him off school for the moment. The verbal injury was from an older boy who said,..er.. (don't know how to put this politely), he said the slang word for a penis was going to burst through the scab on my son's forehead (obviously the boy has deep problems!)then they were laughing at him; my son was offended and I've written to the school asking them to address the issue. I read somewhere else too, advice to remove the scabs, and instinctively I thought it not wise as the skin underneath is raw and glistening, and I thought maybe the advise was for a cosmetic purpose. Should I interfere with it? Will it really prevent spreading, I'm not sure. I took a scab off that was hanging. You know kids, it's not easy for them to keep their hands off completely. One bit is coming up on his eyelid now, sides of nose, cheek. There's no way I'm going near the GP. In early Jan there was a sudden cold spell, and this boy went out to play in the snow, returned within 20mins in an awful state wanting to vomit; his hands & feet had pains from cold and his torso was warm beneth his coat; he told me it was being half warm/half freezing that made him feel so sick. Thats what made me think of Dulc. but on the other hand, that was 2 months ago, so is it likely to have contributed to this current state? I don't know. Interestingly, this child is as stoic as they come, hardly ever gets sick. He is the one who troops on when the rest have got a flue. His troubles to date have been on the mental/emotional plane; nightmares and violent outbursts, from trauma in early childhood, and very improved on Stram. This must then be a positive development,these physicals,(I hope so),now today with a sore throat accompanying, another new symp. Thanks for your ears to share my worries. (The GP just wouldn't understand!!) Louise
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27th February 2001, 11:38 AM
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The crusts are typical of impetigo - they always comprise yellow exudate that sets into a crumbly large scab with shiny skin beneath.
Definitely they should be washed away with warm water about three times a day, not for cosmetic purposes. It stops it spreading - both in terms of being less appealing to pick at [which spreads the bacteria to the hands] and stopping the bacteria-carrying exudate moving over the skin. Put a bit of calendula tincture in the water to keep it under control - it won't suppress because impetigo is irrepressible by topical non-antibiotic application. Impetigo is caused either by Staph or Strep infection so it is not surprising that he now has a sore throat - it's the same bacteria casuing it. This is not a good sign because it means the disease is expressing itself at a deeper level. He does need a remedy from your homoeopath at this stage. The description of his nauseated reaction to being half hot, half cold is typical Stram - that dread of being half dead and half alive. As for whether he has come through the Stram picture now - is he expressing the fears still or have they been dissolved by Stram? I would say it's likely to be a new remedy picture emerging, and it is a good shift of symptoms to the physical level as you say, but it needs attention.
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27th February 2001, 06:09 PM
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I have only Kent to guide as to what follows Stram. well: Acon. Bell. Bry. Cupr. Hyos. Nux-v.
and none of these seem to fit the skin. Murphys; head, impetigo, forehead- ant-c, kreos, led, merc, rhus-t, sep, sulph, viol-t. I am dithering between ant-c and merc at the moment. Ant-c fits skin; 'Thick, hard, honey coloured scabs. <heat (he won't wear a coat unless I make him) OK, well, his homeo. who I talked to today, has only treated this once, without success, so the ball is back in my court, although we will confere tomorrow again. The throat is nearly better today, he is away playing football now, which he loves. He still gets afraid of dark but much reduced. Likes to hear people in house at night time. Occasional nightmares,much reduced since Stram. He is strong willed, but pleasant, quite sweet nature. He takes care of his belongings. Especialy his shoes, which are important. He eats lots and lots of apples. Likes meat.Good appitite generaly. He is smallish for his age, wirey and tough. Auburn haired, freckled face, cheeks are slightly pink and rough. He likes to be liked; is well liked; didn't want me to send the letter to school incase the disturbed child I spoke of dislikes him now,and worse, tells everyone! He hates being laughed at; this would make him explode with rage, cry angry tears. He is the 2nd of 4 boys. He is artistic. Good at maths, not at English. He is comical, makes others laugh easily. He usualy knows exactly what he wants. He is helpful,but not huggy and kissy. As stated, he is not a sickly type. Occasional earaches(one every 2 yrs)have been treated with Merc and Bell, the last one with Bell. Any feedback on this would be greatly appreciated, as yes, he does need treatment soon, can't stay off school too long. The scabs, it might be best to remove, but I can't bring myself, just strongly feel I shouldn't mess with it. Better spend time to read my MM instead! With thanks, Louise
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27th February 2001, 09:06 PM
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While I cannot be certain from this info, I think it's a Sulphur case.
The key is there in love of apples. Also sulphur impetigo starts on the forhead, Sulphur follows stram [Rehman]. Sulphur is <heat Generally bouyant natured.
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27th February 2001, 09:31 PM
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Borland says: "More cases of impetigo in children clear on Ant-c. than on any other drug in the MATERIA MEDICA. In adults also, nine out of ten cases of acute impetigo clear on ANTIM CRUD."
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3rd March 2001, 01:31 AM
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One dose of Ant-c 30 two days ago and now skin is clear as clear. Great!
My deep thanks to you all for the support through MM confusion city!
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