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Old 25th November 2000, 11:21 AM
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Child age 5. Severe headache followed by high fever. Restless, whining, weeping. Burning heat, no sweat. Aco 200 at 7 or 9 p.m. Fever decreased but headache continued. Time and again awoke at night. Bell 1M next day at 11 a.m. high fever at 3 in the evening, again preceded by headache. Prostrated, weak, lying, no interest in play. irritable, whole body hot with hands and feet cold. pain in right leg. Was given Baptisia 30 - 4 doses half an hourly with releif.

Was it typhoid, aborted by timely administration of Baptisia?

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Old 25th November 2000, 02:30 PM
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Sound more like wrong remedy, seem like the correct remedy would have been aconitum.
Supression, like this, will also give a repetition of this, if lucky, .....if unlucky, there will show a far worse disease cause of this, the disease might have been changed, into a far worse disease.

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Old 25th November 2000, 05:01 PM
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Don't know if it was typhoid, sounds like a very acute state--the kind lots of kids get. Child seems to be very vital, producing the very high fevers. The Baptisia seems to have worked beautifully to resolve it.

Did he recently receive an inoculation, or was there some reason to suspect typhoid specifically? What rubrics led you to the Baptisia?
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The keys for aconitum, is dry heath, what a firstyear student in homeopathy knows.
And, when a remdy relives like acon, did, and the headache continued, aggravated,, it did show the potence was to low, it should have been modified, and repeated! organon § 158-161-164-246-247248-250-273.

Divina, you dont know organon §154-153-152.
This is what a homeopath knows!

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MA, I am curious to know what symptoms led you to prescribe Baptisia in the case? There is far too little in what you've written to discern which, if any of the remedies administered, worked in any definable way.

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Its not normal, that a professed professional homeopath, demand that a patient..or a student is to teach him/ Her homeopathy.
It shows, a dabbler in action!

The answers to why Baptisia is chosen, is to find in the repertory, the symptomes used is given!


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Old 27th November 2000, 05:37 AM
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Thank you GM and Divina.

No recent innoculations. The patient's elder brother has just recovered from Typhoid.

The case was not repertorised. The fact that the fever did not go away within 24 hours (continued light temperature below 100 C) and rapid prostration, coated tongue with clean borders, apart from what has been narrated in my first post, were the symptoms.

It was about five days ago, there is no fever since then but the child has not gained his previous alertness. He plays, engages with his elder brother but also prefers to lie down, though no crisis situation like five days ago.

Do not know whether cured or suppressed? But the question is: what should be done now?

GM and Divina, I lood forward to hearing from you.
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What other symptoms are?

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Hi MA,

Thanks for the information. It may be time to just follow-up the case and give the appropriate constitutional (perhaps psoric) remedy now, since the acute remedy worked so well. It sounds like there was a kind of minute epidemic of typhoid where you are, so Genus epidemicus prescribing (which is essentially what you've done here, with the Bapt.) is the appropriate type of prescribing to use in such a case.

Baptisia IS a good remedy for typhoid, a disease which is not as prevalent as it once was here in NA, but persists in many other places in the world. I think it may be possible that the aconitum and the belladonna aided the body in bringing down the fever, but ultimately the baptisia did the trick. It does help to know he was exposed to typhoid via his elder brother: I found this notation in Boericke's mm under "baptisia":

Baptisia in low dilutions produces a form of anti-bodies to the bac. typhosus, viz, the agglutinins. This raises the natural bodily resistance to the invasion of the bacillary intoxication, which produces the typhoid syndrome. (a suitable remedy for) Typhoid carriers.

So it is very possible this was the most appropriate acute remedy.

Incidentally, did you use homeopathy for his brother, too? If so, what was given? I'm very interested to know. Boericke lists Nitric acid, terebinthum, crotalus h., hamamelis, and pyrogenum as good remedies to follow the baptisia--a follow up may just point to one of these remedies to restore full health.

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Old 28th November 2000, 09:21 AM
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Divina, thank you.

The patient's brother did receive homoeopathic treatment but I am sorry to admit, I messed up his case (He received Belladonna 1M, China 200, Acid mur 30, Sulph 200, Typhoidinum 1M, Phos 1M, later 10M during a period of, I believe, 7-9 days). The Widal test confirmed typhoid with both lung infections. He was prescribed Cefspan - a third generation Antibiotic with a cough syrup. Your and GM's comments will be highly appreciated in this regard.

The younger brother, who received Baptisia., was well yesterday. His alertness and talkativeness have returned. Has gone school today.



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