otherhealth.com  

Go Back   otherhealth.com > Homeopathy > Homeopathy Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21 (permalink)  
Old 19th December 2000, 05:17 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: N.England
Posts: 465
Hoppitt415 is an unknown quantity at this point
Post

Pat
Are you saying that all pans, kettles, steamers etc are eliminated or just those containing aluminium?
If so how do i know which contain aluminium?
Is stainless steel ok??
Reply With Quote
  #22 (permalink)  
Old 19th December 2000, 06:23 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 1999
Location: UK
Posts: 431
Pat Davis
Send a message via Yahoo to Pat Davis
Post

Stainless Steel is fine ( even stainless steel pans with an Aluminium sandwich in the base are Ok )

The problem with many electric coffee makers slow cookers , steamers etc is they contain HIDDEN Aluminium elements

Its HEATING Aluminium that causes the majority of the problems and the only way I can describe its action is "RADIATION "

But ALUM used by many water companies to clarify/treat the water supply has been well shown by Southampton University to cause far higher levels of Alzheimers victims than in areas where water is not treated

You must also be careful with things like Sardine cans and ALL RING pull cans as these too are Aluminium

My Homeopath ONLY USED Alumina 6 or 30c in early stages of treating toxic patients
and only later 200c .........She said NEVER USE HIGHER as it could cause real problems

Both she and Dr Foubister insist its nessecary to give Alumen 200c once a week and to use any of the remedies already mentioned according to symptoms

Plumbum must be used as few people realise that lead is released from aluminium pans ( pain in big toe would be typical symptom )

I can only tell any of you what I used and what she treated me and hundreds of others with and we are fit and well

That kind of experience is aquired during 40 years of practice .........its up to each Homeopath to adjust this to the patient
Reply With Quote
  #23 (permalink)  
Old 19th December 2000, 06:24 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 1999
Location: UK
Posts: 431
Pat Davis
Send a message via Yahoo to Pat Davis
Post

Stainless Steel is fine ( even stainless steel pans with an Aluminium sandwich in the base are Ok )

The problem with many electric coffee makers slow cookers , steamers etc is they contain HIDDEN Aluminium elements

Its HEATING Aluminium that causes the majority of the problems and the only way I can describe its action is "RADIATION "

But ALUM used by many water companies to clarify/treat the water supply has been well shown by Southampton University to cause far higher levels of Alzheimers victims than in areas where water is not treated

You must also be careful with things like Sardine cans and ALL RING pull cans as these too are Aluminium

My Homeopath ONLY USED Alumina 6 or 30c in early stages of treating toxic patients
and only later 200c .........She said NEVER USE HIGHER as it could cause real problems

Both she and Dr Foubister insist its nessecary to give Alumen 200c once a week and to use any of the remedies already mentioned according to symptoms

Plumbum must be used as few people realise that lead is released from aluminium pans ( pain in big toe would be typical symptom )

I can only tell any of you what I used and what she treated me and hundreds of others with and we are fit and well

That kind of experience is aquired during 40 years of practice .........its up to each Homeopath to adjust this to the patient
Reply With Quote
  #24 (permalink)  
Old 3rd January 2001, 02:59 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: St.Louis, MO USA
Posts: 262
mamma3
Post

A question about the "ring pull" cans: My daughter's fruit cups come that way. I tested them against a magnet and they were attracted. I thought that magnets were not attracted to aluminum.

Another question.... I replaced the filter in my whole house humidifier and it said, "To recycle, place with other aluminums." Does this mean that I have little aluminum ions floating around my house contaminating everything?

Thanks!
Reply With Quote
  #25 (permalink)  
Old 3rd January 2001, 12:01 PM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: N.Y.
Posts: 12
lemm
Smile

thank you all for your wonderful responses. i have been away for awhile and just got back on. hoppitt415 it was interesting to read about the dx. he had an mri and they dx with shrinking of the brain. my dad is 68 and he was an alcoholic for many many years. i don't see to much of his forgetfulness. my brother works w/ him and says things like he'll tell him to get three parts and he'll come back w/ 1, or he'll forget how to do something(he's a plumber) that he's done all his life.my brother insists this has been going on for 3 years. he'll forget to turn off lights, he'll tell you the same stories he just told you but i don't see a huge difference. he is going to come to my homeopathic doctor. but having trouble with him to fill out his life history.
thanks again for all of your support and my well being. i've been very emotional especially around these past holidays, crying a lot. hope everyone has a HEALTHY , AND HAPPY NEW YEAR.
Reply With Quote
  #26 (permalink)  
Old 3rd January 2001, 06:21 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 1999
Location: UK
Posts: 431
Pat Davis
Send a message via Yahoo to Pat Davis
Post

Some ring pulls are indeed Aluminium and some steel .........if attracted to a magnet should be OK although some stainless steel does not attract to a magnet but i dont know why

Air Con element ...........it would sure make me ill if it was heated ......if its cold its probably ok but as I live in UK and dont have such filters i cant give you a long term answer

Basically if its Aluminium I avoid all contact

REFERENCE the Plumber ,,,,,,,,his main exposure will have been LEAD so plumbum will be important BUT he also is/was an alchoholic this fries brains and even Homeopathy cant reverse that kind of damage
Reply With Quote
  #27 (permalink)  
Old 3rd January 2001, 07:58 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 1998
Location: minneapolis
Posts: 1,037
carolorr is an unknown quantity at this point
Post

Does anyone know if aluminum has been implicated in any other diseases besides ones effecting the brain?
Reply With Quote
  #28 (permalink)  
Old 3rd January 2001, 08:35 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Oxfordshire UK
Posts: 1,689
Anna Bryant
Post

A materia medica of Alum will show the main systems affected. The digestion is also a main one.

Good idea by Pat about the possibility of lead poisoning in a plumber. Lead also produces intense colic - typically as if the navel is drawn back.
Reply With Quote
  #29 (permalink)  
Old 3rd January 2001, 09:04 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 1999
Location: UK
Posts: 431
Pat Davis
Send a message via Yahoo to Pat Davis
Post

Thanks for vote of confidance Anna ......interesting you live in Oxfordshire ......i live in Reading guess i know where to come for face to face

Aluminium is implicated in Arthritis
and cancer of the digestive system

20 years ago I was quite literally a cross between the worst case scenario of Rhematoid Arthritis/ Alzheimers/Digestive Cancer

incredible joint and muscle pain everywhere and sensation of brain being squeezed together with excrutiating colicky/ bowell pain and alternating constipation and diarrohea and nausea

Tomlinsons Aluminium Utensils and Disease is an old but excellent work
Reply With Quote
  #30 (permalink)  
Old 3rd January 2001, 10:05 PM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Wales
Posts: 15
Loli-Lw
Send a message via ICQ to Loli-Lw
Post

lemm, so sorry to read about the news you and your family have just recieved, this must be a very difficult time for you all.
Just so that you know there is no hard evidence that proves that aluminium has anything to do with alzhemier's or any dementia type illnesses.
For anyone who may wish to know there are over 53 known types of dementing type illnesses.
Are the consultants aware of your father's history of alcohol abuse? If not make them aware as this is very important, they will or should do anyway prescribe vits B for him as this is the vit that alcohol kills and in my experiece has alleviated some symptoms in people who have history of alcohol abuse but have a dementia type illness.
And from someone in the "know" take heed of what Janyce was advising, she was talking a lot of sense, you all need to be aware of your rights, and not be fobbed off by the medical profession.
Also like Janyce advises, help him put his life in order, allow him to still feel in control. I know it is an awful thing to think of and talk about with him, but you should discuss the future.I.e if things get too difficult at home, and he would have to go into a home allow him to choose the type of home he wants, even let him choose one. This may be a bit hard going especially if you start looking aroud them, but it does help some people.Only you and your family will know if your dad can handle it.But it will also help you in the future, there will be no heartache, squabbling or guilt when the time actually comes.
I wish you and your family the best, there are many support groups in local hospitals and phonelines aswell as on-line. Make use of them all.Get to know others who are in the same situation, they will fill you in on everything,( I know this form expereince aswell!)But it will help, even though it doesn't sound like fun.

##Aricept## is only prescribed in the early stages of dementia, which is usually too early for most people to notice anything wrong with patner/parent. It has major side-effects while it is being taken aswell as when it is withdrawn.

Take note, Ginko Biloba may help alleviate the loss of memory/forgetfullness, but it also increases ones libido which has caused problems in the past .
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Oh my god...new alzheimers understanding carolorr Coffee Shop 13 31st December 2003 12:50 PM
NEW RESEARCH CONNECTS MERCURY TO ALZHEIMER'S DISEASE - a long article LisaAnnan Homeopathy Discussion 9 2nd April 2001 07:58 PM
Alzheimers symptoms carolorr Homeopathy Discussion 9 28th August 1999 06:57 PM


All times are GMT. The time now is 05:54 PM.



The information contained on OtherHealth.com arises by way of discussion between contributors and should not be treated as a substitute for the advice provided by your own personal physician or other health care professional. None of the contributions on this site are an endorsement by the site owners of any particular product, or a recommendation as to how to treat any particular disease or health-related condition. If you suspect you have a disease or health-related condition of any kind, you should contact your own health care professional immediately. Please read the BB Rules for further details.
Please consult personally with your own health care professional before starting any diet, exercise, supplementation or medication program.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.3.0
Copyright © 2009 otherhealth.com