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Old 18th December 2000, 05:44 AM
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I remember lectures on case taking and prescribing speaking very specificly about treat the patient not the symptom. I also know that in many published papers and Journals there is quite a lot of weight given to the ill effects of Aluminum and the fact that the body stores it in the brain as well as in other vital organs.

In this regard I question: Will Alumina act as an "acute" remedy to open and help clear the picture for prescribing for the next layer much in the same way as Silica/Silicea can be applied to clear.

I welcome all opinions. If this would be better posted on a seperate thread I will gladly comply.

Lisa and others interested;
Research where Flouride in many toothpastes and in U.S. public drinking water comes from. I think I remember reading it is a by-product of the manufacture of Aluminum.

Lemm, remember to take care of yourself as well as your family in the times ahead, these cases really drain your energy. Best wishes.
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Old 18th December 2000, 08:44 AM
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I have never heard of Silica being used to clear a case. Please let us know more.
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Old 18th December 2000, 12:09 PM
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Arisept is the proven allopathic remedy to keep the person, as it was explained to me, remembering to wash themselves and eat etc. It is very expensive , over £1000 per patient per year and is not given by all Health authorities. There are stringent tests every 3 months, to check that it is still working, in the form of simple questions , like where are we, what is the date, who is the Prime minister etc.

Re your husband - tell him that herbal Gingko Bilboa is meant to be a preventative!!
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well I guess you are all learning !!!!

ALUMEN =Alum
ALUMINA= Aluminium
Aluminium Silicate
Plumbum .........is also in Aluminium pans

All are involved in treatment of Alzheimers or Aluminium Toxicity

First clear the picture with Sulphur

Then treat very carefully using Alumina 6c and ALUMEN 200c

DO NOT TRY TO USE ALUMINA 200c and NEVER any potency higher

It will also be neccesary to consider using Carbo Veg , Lycopodium,chelidonium,chamomilla
these and sulphur are needed to clear the liver and the kidneys and the body

You must treat on Symptoms

BUT ITS VITAL that every single piece of cookware, kettles, coffee makers, slow cookers, steamers non stick and foil are REMOVED from the patients life

They must only eat FRESH foods positively nothing thats been via the food industry

Freeze Dried coffee is fine as is tea
but not other instant or granular coffees

Red wine is OK but majority of beers, spirits etc are lethal

Theres so much and majority is down to experience >>>>>>>My Homeopath had 40 yrs of it treating thousands of aluminium sensitives like me

My father died of Alzheimers but 20 yrs after being on the edge of Alzheimers myself in total Aluminium Toxicity I am fit and well and care for 4 small grandchildren 3 days a week along with a large garden and some work
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Pat - As you know I do use Alumina 200 for my Mother in law.The reasoning behind this is that she was/ still is, (but not as much) a dynamic person and therefore needs a dynamic potency. The Alumina was chosen on symptomology.
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Pat: whats the reasoning for not using the alumina 200?
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Ricky - can I ask if when you describe your mother-in-law as "dynamic", needing a dynamic remedy (higher potency) do you mean a dynamic personality, outwardly or a dynamic "vital force"? Can a being have a dynamic behavior but have low vital force? I think of animals (of course) that are young and seemingly "full of life" but show signs of serious chronic dis-ease. Would they still be candidates for higher potencies or would it be wiser to begin with lower potencies considering their constitutions must actually be compromised (lowered vital force) regardless of their apparent hardiness? (As an aside-I think chronic dis-ease is easier to see in animals than in humans. There are specific visible symptoms that exist before they actually become "sick".)
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An interesting question and I'm not sure how to answer it. Thinking about it she has/had a very vivacious personality so that is outwardly/ As far as a dynamic VF is concerned how does one know? I would say it was someone who gets coughs and cold and the VF throws them off easily and successfully. This used to be her but now the VF is all tied up with the chronic disease and she doesn't get any. I am hoping that by giving a 200 I can shock the VF into working. at least that is my simplistic way of looking at it. I have to admit I know nothing about animals. I pass people with question about animals onto to a local homeopathic vet!!
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While much of the information from Pat is very useful, I cannot endorse the routine prescription for alzheimers advocated.
The remedies suggested are all likely to be ones to be considered, but homoeopathic treatment can never be as routine as that, and I would not want the questionner to try that selection. A long-term treatment is required to prescribe for the individual case.
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Hi not a homeopath but I do work with people who have dementia. I work with under 65's who have dementia and their carers and families.

Dementia is not a diagnosis, it is a label. Alzheimer's is more of a diagnosis, but mosy medics would acknowledge that a diagnosis is a best guess. They really only confirm the diagnosis Post Mortem.

The medical model has very little to offer someone with dementia. Aricept and Exelon are the new "miracle" drugs, but even amongst the medics thier use is controversial. All medicines are poisons and some people will not be able to take it because the side effects are intollerable, or because they have another condition which means it should not be used.

At best these new drugs slow the process for somewhere between a few months to about 18 months. I know people who have taken it and have found it helpful, but at some point it becomes ineffective and must be stopped. i have heard some people say there may be a rapid decline in the person taking the drug after it is stopped, although the medical/pharmaceutical jury is still out on that one.

However, there is lots you can do for your father and yourself and the rest of your family Good health being only one of the things which you can activley promote - any health problems make someone with dementia appear to get worse. Keep up to date on routine eyes, hearing and demtal appointments, eat well...

Keep your father occupied. Keeping him stimulated will help him to make use of the skills and abilities he has. The old saying use it or lose it is true in any kind of dementia.

What does he understand about what is happening to him. It would be usefuil to know what he understands and to talk to him about that.

It would help to put his afairs in order, and if he is to do this he needs to understand why he needs to do it now... even if his symptoms can be helped by homeopathy it would help him to know where all his important documents are (goodness... it would help us all )

Putting together some kind of life story book is a very helpful activity. It triggers memories and offers comfort and some families have found it to be a very healong and comforting activity to do. I am working with a group of younger people with dementia and the living Archive here in Milton Keyens, putting together a book of their life stories for publication - we hope to publish it next summer. The people participating in this have found it very helpful...

NEVER EVER accept it if someone tell you its just the dementia if there is something happening which you think should be investigated... demetia is sometimes used as an excuse for not doing anything...

There is lots which you can do to help yourself and your family... get support. there are lots of online resources.

And yes... I know several conventional medics who rate Ginko biloba and vitamin E very highly.... but check other health problems first, especially before taking Ginko.

And dont forget to look after yourself...

Good luck...
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