Hi all !

Can anyone find a rubric for feeling trapped ie in a relationship.

Hey Hoppitt, I think you have the whole case in the WHY? of that idea.

It could be claustrophobia [fear narrow places] but only if that comes through in other ways too.

By implication is it Escape attempts to? Subrubric, run away?

I think if I were analysing that case I would take the definite symptoms as repertorisation and then use this kind of thing as differentiating material between possible remedies.

I would want to know why they feel trapped and why they haven't got out of the relationship. It could for instance be cowardice which may lead to Lycopodoum, fear, sympathy etc. It is from these sort of questions you will find the essence of what is going on here and hense the remedy.

Likely of no help, but I thought these were interesting.

MIND - DELUSIONS - trapped - he is:
1. haliae - Jeremy Sherr, Dynamic Provings Vol.1
2. limest-b.- Nuala Eising, Granite, Marble and Limestone

I also found:
By Dr. Bishambar Das
Nat Mur.
Wants to break connection in disappointed love but cannot do it, feels trapped but cannot help it. Try this when Ignatia fails.

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Dear Hoppit,

Carc. believes that their path in life is blocked and they can't move forward. I agree about Lycopodium, they tend to be afraid of committment; Lachesis does not like to be confined; Tub. and calc-phos. are discontented remedies that get bored easily and long for a change, to move on.

Snoopy

Thanks for the replies.
She hasn't got out of the relationship because she doesn't want to be the one that breaks up the relationship. She wishes husband would either die or meet someone else so he would leave her.
She doesn't want to be the one to hurt the children- would feel guilty. Wants to avoid blame.
She feels 'like a trapped butterfly' and experiences emptiness, blackness, slows down, feels weepy and 'heavy'
She talks of'plummetting down''going under'
'going downhill' 'hitting rock bottom' 'head in the sand''want to escape' 'want to hide'
'can't face it' 'feel a wreck'



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Dear Hoppitt,

I'm thinking about remedies that can't stand confrontation, remedies like carc. and
staph. This is what I see with this patient.
The patient is afraid of confrontation, sticking up for herself, being assertive. Look under Mind, timid.

Snoopy

That trapped butterfly image reminds me of Iris Murdoch's novel, The Bell.

It's difficult to interpret this kind of thing because as homoeopaths we are not psychotherapists. I would look at basics like tongue, hair, teeth, nails, food dis/likes etc to narrow it down and then try to understand the case through the remedies that come through. This is how homoeopaths can get insight into the psyche - through understanding the remedy process that is happenning rather than by amateur psychoanalysis. I have made this mistake myself in the past.

I am grateful to GM for having taught me how to prescribe this way. GM taught me to be many times more effective as a prescriber than I was when I completed homoeopathy school.
GM I am very grateful for this and publically acknowledge it.


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MIND, DELUSIONS, imaginations; Trapped, he is: haliae-lc, lac-eq2, lap-c-b
(Complete Repertory).

There it is. Solid, SCIENTIFIC data of a mental emotional state produced by these 3 substances under rigidly controlled circumstances--what we call a proving.

No speculation at all. No "amateur" psychoanalysis required. Homeopaths are taught very well to know the difference between psychoanalysis and homeopathic consultation. Speculation is the weakness in homeopathic philosophy and practice. Psychoanalysts speculate: homeopaths gather and analyze facts.

If you don't know why your patient feels trapped, consider that they must have given some thought about their situation to formulate such a description about it. Honour their expression of themselves: ASK what it is about their situation which makes them feel this way, and keep asking for clarification until the patient has made you fully understand why they feel this way--what is at the core of their expression. Then you will have your answer--clear, concise, real--not speculative.

If, however, all you have to go on is this stated belief, don't worry--you don't have to speculate there, either. In this case, the delusion (and it is a delusion, as we can see--she feels trapped, but she really is not trapped) is produced by these listed substances. It appears in the repertory.

I would say that this symptom is far more important and revealing than the physical particulars. That is why the mental/emotional symptoms are always hierarchicalized as the most important symptoms in the case--and also the reason why, when a remedy is chosen to address the m/e state, the physicals (even if they are not part of the remedy's "symptom picture") just take care of themselves. Whereas this seldom holds true "in reverse".

Divina

Thanks for taking the time to post these replies which I find really interesting!
cIB- I considered Staph too because of all the suppression of emotions. She definitely does this- she lives a lie- because she does not want to be the guilty one!
This also led me on to looking at the 'cowardly' remedies.
i find your reference to Dr Das re Nat Mur very helpful but that led me onto why can't they help it?
Anna- I see what you are saying about finding the definite physicals and understanding the case through the remedies that come from that. I know GM works in this way and i have been very impressed with his results- i am living proof of his work- wonderful!
But I can also see what Divina says we are taught this way in college ie hierarchy of symptoms. Find the remedy to address the mental state and the physicals take care of themselves. I've heard Sankaran talk about finding the central delusion- my tutor talked of finding the centre of the case.

So we obviously have homeopaths working in entirely different ways and all getting results.

Ilove the BB because so much can be learnt from discussion of topics like these - and the one sure thing about Homeopathy is that we never ever stop learning!