Could Mind, Fear-of death, vomiting be something?
It gives only two rem: Ars(2) and mag-c(1)

Checks, smells, inspects all food
for spoilage. Great terror when a stomach virus is known to be going around-terror the same if virus is next
door or other side of the planet.= LAC CANINUM.

but here is a more prominent thing, it seems, foodpoisoning as child,(ars) seem like it has induced a fear ..and the reactions she get here, is fear of the fright, it gives me papaver somniferum.
Could be an idea to look into.

Murphy - Stomach
VOMITING, general fearful (3)
1 ant-c, 1 ip, 1 tab

I would probably not concentrate too much on the specific fear (vomiting) and more on the reaction - as a rubric you could look at DISGUST. It is definitely a fear of disease - perhaps contagious disease. But I think most importantly it is a FIXED IDEA, which would make me think of THUJA.

Also, there is a rubric "Disgusting thoughts with nausea" - SANG is the only remedy.

KALI-ARS tends to panic about their heart more than anything, from what I have seen and read of it. From a Scholten perspective she combines elements of both ARS and SULPH, so you could look at ARS-SULPH as a possibility.

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David, your realisation of it's being a "fixed idea" is insightful repertorization. Mind fixed ideas gives Kali-c, puls, thuj

Thanks everyone, appreciate your ideas.

Agree with David, focusing on reaction rather than specific fear a bit more. Fixed ideas is a good one. Any thoughts on hysteria? There really is a reaction of total hysteria, almost mania, when the feeling comes on that vomiting may occur. Although there is much disgust overall, the reaction of running through the streets etc., is pretty much an hysterical reaction. Sort of like there is a primary and secondary reaction depending on circumstance. The idea of vomiting is disgusting in general. If she were to come upon someone else vomiting, there would likely be total disgust followed immediately by hysteria at what she saw and that it may happen to her, too. If it were HER feeling that she may vomit, I don't think the reaction would be 'oh no, I'm disgusted that I may vomit' but rather an 'OMG OMG this can't happen' frantic kind of moment, followed by the hysterical behavior that's used to try to ward it off.

To quote Divina...I dunno
Just another thought, what do you think?

Sunny

Hey, Sunny,

That quote's a reflection of the smartest thing I ever wrote!!

Yes, I think David's onto something there--now take the "fixed idea" thing and look for a remedy with hysteria or mania, particularly with things which disgust. Something like stramonium? It's in the disgust rubric, and also has ailments resulting from extreme fright.

David's also quite right about the Kali-Ars focus on pains in the heart. Perhaps it was Kali-c who felt everything in the stomach...
Anyway, I love how this has opened up a whole understanding of the case--esp. that "fixed idea" thing, which I just kinda didn't let register. I really hope this helps you narrow it down.

Divina

Would say, there is a red tread of controll in the ppicture, that gives natrium mur, but since its also ars present, look at natr ars.
Lac c is the other thats present m fear of contamination, buts not so prominent as the desire to controll the reaction, even to the point of self injurie, to cause distraction, that gives me only Natrium Mur.

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Here's an idea, tell me if it sounds remotely possible.......Belladonna.

I'll tell you why--in looking up rubrics the likes of hysteria, Bell kept popping up and made me go hmmmmm, such as in:

Hysteria (2)
Delusions, sick, imagines himself (1)
Mania (3)
Delirium, frightful (3)
Delirium, almost hysterical (1)
Delirium, paroxysmal (2)
Delirium, maniacal (3)
Insanity, madness (3)
Insanity, paroxysmal (2)

OK, so tarent, verat, op, stram also kept coming up, but there is a SRP here, of not being able to swallow most foods without drinking liquid, like swallowing chewed food as a pill, and there is both:

Swallowing, difficult, drink, must, in order to swallow AND cross reference
Swallowing, difficult, must drink at every mouthful to wash down food...same rems and here we have bell (2) (along with cact, cur, elaps, kali-c, nat-c, nat-m) (I know GM, you said nat-m )

So I read up on bell with a different light, and really so many symptoms fit, especially the ones in italics. There really isn't the redness though (except eyelids, rims of eyes), so don't know if that messes up this idea. Heat and burning internally, even though a cold-blooded person. There is often a sudden and violent onset, feeling fine one minute, then the next a vague off feeling in stomach will instantly cause the gagging sensation and set off an episode...just as the childhood food poisoning was suddenly and violently upon her (if indeed that is the causation).

Soooo...whatcha think? Is this so off that I myself am delusional (have been working feverishly, can you tell?) or is this a possiblity?

The Sunny one




[This message has been edited by Sunny (edited 10 January 2001).]

I like it! The belladonna is in the same family of plants as hyos, and stramonium--and these are often compared in terms of degree of mania/hysteria and the acute nature of the illness.

If you have all the bits and pieces which correlate to the belladonna, plus an SRP, and the whole things seems to "fit" now, then its a good choice. Everyone tends to think of Belladonna as an acute remedy--but as a matter of fact it is a polycrest, and can be a good constitutional remedy especially if the patient is in an acute state (not the same thing as an acute illness!).

One thing I gotta know--yes, GM mentioned Nat Mur--which would have a lot of trouble swallowing food without gulps of water because of the globus hystericus associated with the remedy--figure out why your patient can't swallow the food down and match that reason with the ones found in the right rem.
Is it because she thinks the food's poisoned, or is it because she's already fearing vomiting it, or, what? That will be a good way to differentiate, too.

Divina