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Old 8th January 2001, 12:02 PM
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HI - I posted some time back about my MIL (mother in law) having had a hip replacement.

NM200 was prescribed (although I just learned the dose was never sent out! ggggg ).
Her symptoms were:
incontinence
extreeeeeeme irritability and snapping at everyone (unreasonable as h*ll).

Now, we've had a horrendous phone call today from Zim about her and my father in law.

They are both in hospital. She now has digestive problems - and every bit of info I'm getting is third hand. The phones in Zim aren't always easy to get through on, but we are going to try to ring in a day or so (when one of them is released from hospital).

So, she still has the above symptoms PLUS digestive problems now.
I suspect it is constipation as she was still having lots of pain from the hip operation...and probably ended up taking pain killers, which always seems to slow down the digestive tract. Okay, I'm speculating a bit here, but I know she was NOT initially taking anything for pain (just an occasional Tylenol/Panadol)...but I feel quite certain this is what has happened.

So, I am going to the post office tomorrow to send this packet of NM for her.

My father in law is actually in hospital, as he is having some heart symptoms - but we don't know what kind exactly. He is actually scheduled for an operation on Jan 16 for prostrate cancer. We just found all this out this morning!

I'm just wondering if everyone would please give any input on MIL's rem selection - is NM still indicated (I know it is little to go on, but I so want to help her) with added digestive problems?

As for my FIL, I don't know what we could do, except to send a dose of Arnica 200 for after surgery. Would it be wise to have a low dose prior to surgery (say 30)??

Please let me know what you guys think. This has been such a sad day for us. We also feel a bit frustrated as the political situation there (and the lack of petrol availability) makes it difficult to hop on a plane and help them.

Any help is appreciated - all are most welcome to comment.
Thanks
Lisa
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Old 8th January 2001, 12:15 PM
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Lisa, sorry to hear all of this news for you and your family. Thoughts and prayers are with you. Jen
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Old 8th January 2001, 12:16 PM
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Thanks Jen, I'm just hoping - despite the scarce info someone will be able to comment and help a little. It's frustrating not being able to rush to their sides and help them.
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Hi Lisa!
If your MIL has been given painkillers in hosp they are likely to be morphine based (eg codeine) which will definitely make her constipated. Added to that she is probably alot less active than before and her irritability - looks like she needs Nux Vom!

Re your father in law - I would definitely give him Arnica 30 before hand.

Are they here in UK - could I send remedies for you??
Let me know.
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Hi Lisa,

I'm sorry to hear of so much trouble--isn't Madame Hoppitt brilliant? Mme. H you are very kind.

I think the Nux V. is a very good choice for your MIL--but what potency would you suggest, Mme. H?

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Old 8th January 2001, 06:55 PM
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Hi guys...thanks a lot. Wonder why NM was prescribed before ....I'll go and dig up the old thread to see if I forgot some of the symptoms I posted before...to be sure.

I wish I had more to go on...but sure you're right about the painkillers Hoppitt, sadly.

Okay - would NV 200x be okay (I'm thinking it will hold longer than 30x)? I'm 5000 miles away from them and they are OLD - and not so with it, so giving a 30x and asking for feedback will be a bit diff (although I am going to try ringing them repeatedly to ascertain how things are going).

Also - shouldn't I give Arnica 30x before and 200x after the operation? (sorry, just not clear on this).

I really appreciate you guys helping out on this. And thanks Hoppitt, but they are in Zim (as said above - meaning Zimbabwe), so I dont think you'd get the rem's to them any faster than me (I'm a bit closer than you - actually by about 1/2 the distance, I think).

Thanks so much...awaiting your replies.
Lisa
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Old 8th January 2001, 07:23 PM
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I'm so upset..I can't find the old thread!

I had posted her list of symptoms there - and hoped to find it - to refresh my memory - and to see why NM had been prescribed....oh dear.

Oh well, still awaiting replies..thanks all.
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Old 8th January 2001, 07:44 PM
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Hi Lisa,

Don't worry--it is quite possible the Nat Mur fit at the time. This would not be the first time a nat mur was pushed over the edge into the land of Nux V, though...as they are closely connected rems in a way. Many who have done very well on NM have needed NuxV and had good results with it in times of great stress or illness. Because you will be making phone calls often and because they are older, I would start with a lower potency in the Nux--a 30c that can be repeated. Hopefully Mme H. will comment on this as I'm sure she has experience with cases like this and found one potency to be more helpful than others in similar situations.

Arnica 30c first; then 200c after the operation when the situation will actually mirror arnica's lacerations to soft tissue.

Hope Mme Hoppit returns soon!
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Old 8th January 2001, 08:33 PM
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HI - couldn't find MIL's thread..but just remembered something...not sure if this is why NM was prescribed before...

Her eyesight started to go downhill about 5 years ago - suddenly. She wore glasses, but could drive, etc...and now cannot drive. Is almost blind. I don't know exactly what is wrong - but I recall the on the last visit (in '98) her eyes were a bit coudy (if you call it that..they were sort of circled with a whitish ring round the outer part of the iris..but not a definite line...just cloudy, I guess).

She was checked by a specialist in Johanneburg, SA, and was told it wasn't something that could be helped by surgery. (I guess they were thinking it was a cataract, but it turns out it wasn't). Anyhow, she seems to be able to see pheripheral vision better than straight on (from what I recall, - gosh, I hope i've got this right!).

Anyhow...NV still??
Thanks..lisa
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Hi Lisa,

Looked up Nux V and it does have many eye symtpoms. Couldn't find one for vision, actually, but did find this:

Amaurotic (meaning partial or total blindness, that happens without any apparent lesions or injuries to the eye) cloudiness of eyes.

Could this fit?

I think the Nux still sounds good for the situation (use of the constipating opiate drugs) and the mental state, if its one of irritability arising from pain and frustration.

What do you say?
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