Yes, it does.

Divina

Hi,

I, too, have wondered about the vibrations during drilling. Since being on homeopathic care, I've not gone to the dentist, but have read that dental treatment can cause a need for redosing.

The thing that intrigued me about the vibrations is that twice since I've been on homeopathic care, I've had occasion to visit my chiropractor. Both times, before adjusting my neck, he attached electrodes to my upper back and neck to relax the muscles. Both times, I was doing very well before I went in and after receiving the treatment, hit a big downward spiral. Could those vibrations be the culprit?

Interesting topic, for sure!

Best to everyone,

Lynn

Hi Lynn,

Electrodes would definitely provide some crude interference with the body's own "energy" patterns, I would think!

I have a homeopath who is also a chiropractor, but he has been focusing his practice almost completely on homeopathy because he has found it to be most the effective treatment modality of them all (he's also a naturopath). Once he offered a chiropractic adjustment to get me through a potent aggravation--a severe head and neck pain. I have always been wary of chiropractic treatment, because in my experience it has just been painful and not very lasting--but he assured me that it could be done unintrusively (with the homeopathy) and painlessly. Unfortunately, it doesn't have the lasting effect of something like homeopathy--but sometimes it can "clear the way" by physically realligning things so that the remedy can work unimpeded.

Can't think why electrodes would be necessary, though! Maybe without the added electrode therapy it could get you through some difficult spots in your treatment.

Divina

Hi Divina! Hi Strillo!

Here we have yet one more draw-back to routine high-potency prescribing for chronic cases. You're given one dose high and told to wait, and then Real Life sets in, like having to go to the dentist. So you go, and then you wonder: Have I antidoted my remedy? Should I repeat the dose "just in case", and risk that the repetition itself will cause an antidote? What if it's the wrong remedy, how will I know? If it doesn't act, my homeopath will think that I antidoted it, not that he prescribed wrong!

People who are on a low daily dose (6th ed. Organon prescribing) don't have these worries. When they need to go to the dentist, they go. If there's an antidote, it's only the last dose that was antidoted, the remedy will soon be taken again. If an acute arises, you treat it. It's much more humane and more easily managed. Of course, if the patient is incapable of complying with daily doses, you have to give one dose high and hope for the best.

Good luck on your remedy, I hope it works out for you!

Sincerely,
Snoopy

I see what you mean, Snoopy, but wasn't the intention of daily LM's mainly for those patient's who are sensitive, and those who are very ill - wasn't it to be used mainly in cases where one didn't want to stir up too many hard aggravations - in those cases where it could be dangerous to stir hard aggro...something to do with pathological symptoms or something like that?

I don't think using a combination of both methods is necessarily bad, is it - esp if a patient has a strong vitality...but would like to hear more on this.
Lisa

Hi Lisa,

It's been almost a week since I've been able to check back in, or I would have answered your question sooner. I've gotten most of my information on prescribing from Robin Murphy, who is a Hahnemannian scholar; but also from simply reading the 6th ed. of the Organon--Kunzli's translation, which is very easy to read. Hahnemann is very clear that aggravations should not be permitted in chronic diseases. He said the real homeopathic aggravation comes at the end of treatment, not at the beginning. (In naturopathy we call this the "healing crisis".) The so-called homeopathic aggravation, as he calls it, is nothing more than a medicinal disease caused by too high prescribing. He says since you have no way of knowing which patient is sensitive to remedies and which patient is not, you must start all chronic cases with low potencies. The general guideline in homeopathy is to match the potency of the remedy to the energy that the symptom is putting out. If you have a chronic disease that is plodding along day after day, it's a much better match for a 6 or a 9C two or three times a day or an LM1 once a day than one dose of a 200 or a 1M or 10M and wait. (I prefer giving the doses in water in a dropper bottle so that it can be succussed before each use, increasing the potency ever so slightly each time.) Prescribing this way means we never have to say, "Sorry, you can't treat that acute, you'll antidote your constitutional remedy!" which is really not only cruel, but a non-starter, since I don't know of anyone who will sit back and do nothing when they know they have a nux vomica headache, or a colocynthis acute abdomen. It seems even more bizarre to the patient if they're being asked to protect a remedy that may not even have started working, and may never work.

Take care, Lisa.

Sincerely,

Snoopy

Thanks for your understanding of this. I certainly will hit the Kunzli/Naude translation more now (I also like Wenda Brewster O'Reilly too) - with special attention to the doses and potencies. Lots to learn...thanks for explaining...

Lisa

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I am a chronic sufferer (severe psora) who has had extensive personal experience with both the high potency centesimals and the LM's. The high potency centesimals *are* very aggravating to the vital force because they are succussed over and over and over. The LM's, on the other hand, are grinded for several hours and then succussed a little. Hence, they have a very "grounded" effect on the vital force and work more gently, deeply, and rapidly. Hahnemann said that using the LM's can reduce the treatment time to 1/2, 1/4, or even less than that of the centesimals. And there is no concern of antidoting. In treating miasms, I have found that dosing every 3-7 days (by olfaction) is sufficient and I have gotten amazing results using the LM's in this way. They are superior in every way to the centesimals. David Little has studied Hahnemann's writing on this subject (in The Organon and his Paris casebooks) and has written about it on his website.

Contrary to what Hahnemann says, I have found that aggravations sometimes do come at the beginning of the remedy. If the aggravations are similar or homeopathic, it is a good sign that the correct remedy was given. You will usually know rather quickly, and this helps to speed the healing process. Sometimes, there will be "accessory" symptoms (overstimulation, agitation) at the end of the remedy's action.

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THIS;what you say is contrary, has never been Expressed by Hahnemann. You misunderstand.
" Contrary to what Hahnemann says, I have found that aggravations sometimes do
come at the beginning of the remedy.

What Hahnemann says is, if a remedy is correct, but the potence wrong ,or the patient sensitive, you might see a aggravation in minutes!
And he says, when this happens, leave it alone , and wait and see, if not too hard, or giving troubles, intervene if to long or to hard with a oter dose or potence..giving mmore if this is a quick reacting patient, may do harm, esp if given in continued wrong potence, up or downwards, dep on the patient and the situasion, this is a thing you need to experience..in order to controll
What most LMers do, is supress, or create problems, thinking they have a safe solution in LM.
LM, is no sleeping pillow for lazys!
This, is why you need experience with all other potences first.
Using LMs only, gives away in my wiew, a very unexperienced homeopath.
Homeopatic remedise is like the carpenters tool chest, you dont use a saw to drive in a nail, you use a hammer...

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I have never suppressed or created problems using the LM's. And unlike some others who will remain nameless, I do not create prolonged aggravations with partial simillima. If you had read and understood my post correctly, you would know that I do not use a "solution", as I administer the LM's by olfaction, dry. I may be inexperienced but, unlike others, I am adept at understanding the phenomena of aggravations and base my prescriptions accordingly.

Dr. Choudhury writes in "Indications of Miasm" that the LM potency "renders full freedom to both physicians and patients from the tyranny of centesimal potency." Are you saying that Dr. Choudhury was also "inexperienced"?

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