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Old 13th December 2000, 04:36 AM
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What are the complications which a patient may feel after removing Gall bladder. How is the life of patient in future. What steps to taken to avoid complication in future. Give views, suggestions and suggest precautions.

Do you recommend to remove gall bladder if it contains stones. What are specific remedies for gall stones and obstructive jaundice. Pain is severe.

Give web sites addresses for more information please.

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Old 13th December 2000, 10:04 AM
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Not a homoeopathic website, but you might like to take a look at www.whas.com.au which is all about maintaining a health liver, and preventing liver disease.
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Recomendation is to chrush the stones with ultrasound device, not to remove the gall bladder, remobving, will cause more problems later, than its now, ecept that the pain is gone, also, if the stones is not to big, a constitutional remedy, or a herbal cure will take them out..
lectin, in a amount of one dl pr day, will soften the stones, lycopodium,either as a herbal portion, or used homeopatically, (if too big, ultrasound, if dangerous, a operation, may be the acute metode in order to save life.) will drive them out, and before and during this only coocked vegetables is preferred as a diet.
After that, find the constitutional remedy. and all food with alumina, in is to be avoided.
Also a diet .
And, if problems after a gallstone operation, use china 200., one dose, once only.

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Old 14th December 2000, 04:22 AM
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Thankyou GM. There are two stones ranging from 5mm to 7mm. Age of the patient is 6 yrs. male. main symptoms are

severe pain at gall bladder region and navel (shooting and radiating) patient is crying. no posture gives releief. perspiration at nose tip and head when in pain. sweating at head during sleep. flabby body (like calc carb) unable to hold neck tie (lach symptom)
like salty items

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Dr. Sam,

There are remedies for gallstones which enable the body to pass them without pain. Allopathic treatments such as the one described above have very dangerous complications which patients are never told about--the ultrasound tool is actually quite capable of destroying the organ tissue. I have a friend who is a cardiologist who is undergoing this kind of pain right now, and she will NOT undergo the ultrasound treatment because she is well versed in its side effects.

Here are some first aid treatments you can differentiate among:

China; Calc; Berberis (the most often used--often in a MT or in 200c potency) Chionanth.; Calculus. Boericke recommends a 8x to 10x potency--very low so that repetition can take place. One other remedy I know of is Kali Carb. Pains will have different radiations for each remedy, so look them up, cause I would need more information than what you've given here (which are common symptoms of gallstone pain episodes). Hopefully you can help your patient avoid the dangerous allopathic treatments.

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Its totally wrong to even consider Gall bladder removal on a child of 6

Suggest diet should be carefully looked at ALONG WITH REMEDIES ALREADY SUGGESTED

My daughter was pushed into Gallbladder op age 25 and she has many many problems as a result
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Old 14th December 2000, 07:32 PM
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I am just sharing the experinece on a 70yr old patient who had the gall bladder removed due to gall stones. There is no comparison with a 6yr child but..

The surgery on the patient was done what they call a endoscopic surgery (if I remember it correctly). Small incisions at three places are made on the abdomen about an inch & they just suck the gall bladder out. The patient goes home the same or next day and walks around & leads normal life. There were no complications from surgery. One thing I know and may or may not be related to the surgery, the patient had low grade fever for many-many months & the allopathic doctors could not find a problem in the body despite several tests.

Like mentioned by Divina, ultrasound can be performed on kidneys but not on gall bladder from what I have heard.

The best is if you can avoid surgery (don't need me to tell you this) but just wanted to share somebody's surgical experience in this area.

Goodluck!!!
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50% OF THE CASES, GOES WELL IN OPERATION, 90% IN ULTRASSOUND.
But there might be differences from hospital to hospital, from country to country, these figures is from my country, Norway.

And, low potencies to drive out stones this size, might endanger the life ..theyr to big over 5 mm.
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What you might do, is using the constitutional remedy to try to dissolve them, or a herbal therapy that is able to reduce them in size then use the spesific homeopatic or herbal remedies to drive them out.

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DR SAM if you are not confident handling this case with consititutional prescribing it is only fair to the child to refer to a more experienced homoeopath for his treatment. It is very important to get the treatment right to avoid surgery, and to set the child up for a healthy future.
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Old 15th December 2000, 05:59 AM
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Thanks fol all members who commented

The only case who is far from me. That was my first case who's age is 6 yrs. The patient is under treatment by another Dr but he is giving treatment after consultation with me.

I have good experience of removing gall stone within 3 to 6 months. But in this case all efforts have been ruined.

We have used so many remedies (some of them are mentioned above by my dear member) according to the symptoms and condition time to time. But stone is increasing day by day. Now his father gave us the ultimatum that he is going to operate that's why I put it on BB.

Just give your excellent and 100 % experience of removing gall stone in some time. We have already wasted 6 months for this purpose. I hope that you all will not mind. Because it is matter of prestige for homoeopathic community. who has very much bad impression of not prescribing remedies to the appoint. I mean that there is no authenticity. I can post all normal, abnormal, specific, general and constitutional symptoms, if somebody required. We are professional so I hope no body will no mind. I always have a learning attitude from all my friends and members.
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