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Old 25th November 2000, 09:17 AM
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For the third time, I have a lack of breastmilk. I very much wish to wholly bf my son, but am unable to do so, despite seeking the advice of 2 lactation consultants, tons of reading, and attending LLL faithfully to garner even more information/help. The amount of milk I produce is (or I guess don't produce) is not from incorrect positioning, latch, or infrequent nursings. I truly am part of the small percentage of women who do not produce.

A book I have suggests several remedies; specifically, I am intrigued by the mention of ricinus. This book also says that applying castor oil to the breasts can increase milk. I haven't had a chance to try this, and am also wondering if there is a certain way I should do so---just rub it on, use as a poultice type of treatment, what?

If anyone knows of ways to increase supply, please let me know. I am unable to find ricinus for sale in the few places I can find online that sell homeopathic meds. If you recommend a remedy, please tell me also if there is an online source for it.

Thanks so much,

Tami
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Old 25th November 2000, 02:29 PM
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No womnder you cant get ricinus, its a deadly poison, so i wonder from where you got that wild suggestion?? castor oil, is like wise, completely nutty.
The child will get seriously ill cause of that if its used.
If to help you homeopatically, we need info, and to get that info, you got to go to my homepage, and use the questionarie there, and either take it privately with me, or post it here, it depends whater i have the time, to take it on the bb, or not too.And if you find it to public, cause lot of info you give is personal.
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Old 25th November 2000, 05:49 PM
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Hi,

Ricinus Communis--Castor Oil--is available from Helios pharmacy, UK. In Boericke, the third potency is suggested for use in increasing flow of milk. It also suggests a poultice of the leaves applied locally for the same result. I wouldn't suggest that castor oil be applied to the nipples, though, that sounds dreadful for the nursing baby.

Incidentally, its not a poison. People used to take doses of this stuff to keep themselves "healthy", as an herbal. Too much, of course, will cause the symptoms listed in the materia medicas. Lots of discomfort and purging from every orifice--something which doesn't sound good.

Despite the information about the remedy and its availability, it shouldn't be taken allopathically--that is, as a solution to your problem of producing milk. Have your case taken in person by a homeopath, who will prescribe based on the totality of your symptoms. That's the best way to treat your problem. You may find that an entirely different remedy may be needed in your case.

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please, dont listen to that dabbler, ricinus is poisonus, no doubt about that, ask a chemist!
And, a homeopath, knows about 75,-34-105 esp, 149 about laxatives... of organon, what that dabbler dont.
Its not a homeopats recomendation, to play with sutch stuffs.
If she by her recomandation, refer to homeopats, and by that imply the same quality as she shows here, then your not getting any help, im afraid.
Depending on where you live, it should be possible to recomend someone safe for you, if you feel not to take it here, or with me.
If England, Anna has knowledge of that, if us, Craig repaz knows whos usable there.

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Dear momof3boys
I recommend that you do your history right away by referring to http://members.home.net/franske/Questionaire.html to get help. Then a proper remedy can be found for you and you can start on it as soon as possible for I am sure you need to increase the breast milk right away. There is not sufficient information given so far to help you out. Homeopathy is not based on one remedy for all but rather on your individual case.

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I have a book written by a well known Homeopath and he recommends rubbing castor oil into arthritic joints and also onto keloid scars.
How can different homeopaths have such conflicting views?
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I think that what we are talking about here is the potencial danger to the child if castor oil is put on the mother's nipple. We don't need a baby with severe diarrhea which could be life threatening or to use a herb which could be toxic. Neither of these substances used this way are homeopathy. A good herbalist does not use one remedy for all either. When herbs are used they should be carefully matched to the condition, and usually not used when a child nurses. Homeopathy is prescribed according to the person and symptoms considering the nursing child too and it will benefit both mother and child.
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Old 26th November 2000, 06:31 AM
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If I were to use the castor oil applied to the breast, I would not be putting it on the nipple area, and would definitely take care to not let the baby get any.

I am also under the impression that there are a lot of homeopathic meds that are potentially poisonous, but that they are significantly diluted, therefore being made safe for use. Belladonna, for instance? I am not second guessing anyone's information though. And I appreciate the responses. There is one homeopath in my area; I see his son for chiro care, he is also an internist of sorts. When I asked him about increasing milk supply, he referred me to the local health food store and Mother's Milk Tea, which does nothing for me. I will have to try and get in to see the father I guess.

If anyone is interested, when I get a chance I will post the info from the book that led me to ask my questions about ricinus.

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Tami
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Old 26th November 2000, 06:45 AM
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Patient: Tami
Wt:300# Ht:5'10"

Age 31 Female

Country US

Marital Status: Married 6.5 years

>In your own words tell about you or the >person you are writing for.

I want to increase milk supply.

>Vision faults if any?

I wear corrective lenses, for nearsightedness. I have astigmatism in my right eye.

>Moles, warts or freckles, if so where?

Freckles all over, I'm very fair-skinned. Concentrated mostly on upper body. A few moles on my back.

>Any other skin problems?

Dry skin, itchy.

>Anything wrong with nails? Spots, cracks, and/or anything else?

They split occasionally, and tend not to grow very long.

>Reactions to weather, time of year; worst, >best? When do problems occur mostly?

I do not like extremes, especially excessive heat. I prefer the weather to be rainy/overcast. Am an indoors sort of person, year round.

>Any particular fears, as for animals, thunder, ligthnigs etc.?

Large dogs and snakes, I'm afraid of those. I hate thunder and lightning storms as well. Loud noises in general irritate me. Also a fear of dying, or of loved ones dying.

>What is your favourite colour?

Blue

>Any cravings, aversions, or reactions, from >food or to situasions?

I like sweets, have an incredible "sweet tooth".

>What you can think of that makes you feel >better or works for you?

Overcast weather, as above. I also like to be alone a lot, not that that is possible now adays!

(Other things you may include if appropriate.)
What do you need help with?

Milk supply

What kind of person are you? Happy, sad, busy, content, fearful etc.?

Fearful; solitary.

Tell about your history in order of time, include Childhood problems

I had all childhood vaccinations. No significant accidents. Illnesses were typical--tonsillitis primarily. No hospitalizations or operations until a c-section with my first son in Feb. 96.

I don't produce enough breast milk; that's the symptom/problem.

What time of the day do you feel better or worse?

I am a nighttime person.

How is your sleep?

Seems like not enough, but what to expect with a newborn.

Family illnesses.

Fairly healthy family for the most part; flu and colds hit now and then, and my husband and I have seasonal allergies in the spring/summer.


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Just to set the record straight:

The questioner wondered if anyone sold this homeopathic preparation, and I found a major supplier who does, because it is available SHOULD SHE NEED IT, WHEN HER CASE IS TAKEN BY A COMPETENT HOMEOPATH.

The information on its symptom picture and on its use as a near-specific is in Boericke's Materia Medica. If this information upsets you, that is unfortunate. As for this remedy being a poison, I'm sure you don't have to think very hard or look too far in homeopathy to find a veritable plethora of poisons, far more powerful than castor oil, which is still used by many to "draw out" or soothe arthritic pains in joints, duly noted by Hoppie.

If this information angers you, find your best pen and write Boericke a letter of complaint.

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