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Old 24th October 2000, 12:24 AM
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Sounds familiar, my 4 yr old has had similar - pre-asthma symptoms w/some bad viruses-flus, etc. On this one, I agree with your husband as its been nearly 3 weeks. If asthmatic symptoms or breathing is involved I tend to move quicker to an allopath, if homeopathy or naturopathy, acupuncture, etc. aren't showing quick promise. If the rhus tox doesn't do it tonight, I'd hurry him to a regular doctor tomorrow. I definetly prefer the homeopathic/complimentary approach too. Sometimes though allopathy is needed. We have a family practice doc here in Boise that is very accepting that sometimes we choose alternative care for our kids. He just tells me what he can offer and says its up to me. He knows my preference for avoiding antibiotics and works with it, with me. He has even referred people on occasion to an acupuncturist, etc. I hope you have that kind of doc where you are or can find one. I believe we need allopathy sometimes, sometimes when things calm down homeopathy can come back in or to help speed healing. Last time we took my 4 yr old to our naturopathic/RN/acupuncture person (she does all 3). It did work w/her asthma. However, if it didn't that night, definetly would have gone to the allopath doc. Best wishes & please update us on your little one.
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Old 24th October 2000, 11:06 AM
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Hi everyone,

I have a problem regarding my little boy he has a cough (which my other kids had too)which is taking him badly.

Every night at about 11pm he wakes with a hard tight cough there is one long pause when you think he will not be able to get his next breath. Then he starts the chesty coughing it sounds if his lungs are full of fluid and he is choking. He coughs like this for about 2 mins. He gets relief when I pat him on the back around the lungs.

Eventually at the end of such a spasm he is sick bringing up a mixture of flem/catargh (white /stringy) and undigested food.

He seems to be still asleep through all of this.

This process may repeat 3 or 4 times lasting up to an hour in total. He seems hardly awake at all. Sometimes he passes urine thinking he is on the toilet. He becomes very stubborn and will not be sick in the toilet or the bathroom he just wants to lie down.

After all this he falls back to sleep and does not wake until morning.

In the day he is happy and healthy looking. He does cough but not this nightime deathrattle. All this is very draining for him. The nightime routine has been going on for at least 3 weeks.

My husband is now keen that I should take our son to the doctor. He says its 'too serious' for homoeopathy. I am sure the doctor will prescribe ventolin and steriods for asthma. He was diagnosed as asthmatic when he was one years old. In fact I was told he had a 'pre-asthma' cough. I do not want to go down the route of steroids and medication for him again. I took him off all that about 3 months after we saw that doctor when he seemed to be better. Anyway that was before I knew anything about homoeopathy and suppression.

So I would be grateful for some input, I can provide a history and constitutional info if anyone can help...

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Old 24th October 2000, 11:12 AM
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use one dose rhus tox 200 at betime, it should help fast, and if helping only a while, a higher potnece mayt be needed, or the suspected by me calc phos.
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Old 24th October 2000, 11:17 AM
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Thanks GM,

I'll try it tommorrow night!
Goodnight for now.

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There are many remedies for asthma but I think with children it is important that they use a local - preferably classical homeopath - who can take a full case and follow the progress being made. Having not started on the steroid band wagon you child is an ideal candidate for homeopathic treatment. Just make sure that you find a fully qualified practioner. There are plenty of sites now where you should be able to find one in your area.
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Old 26th October 2000, 05:10 PM
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Hi GM

Just a quick question - am I supposed to give him Rhus Tox 200c every night at bedtime? I gave him one last night (the first one) he seemed to get worse ie. worse coughing and sickness and he wet the bed (as I thought you might have expected). Should I now give him one again tonight?

Is GM back? If not does anyone else know?

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Old 26th October 2000, 07:03 PM
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No, no more now, wait till to morrow and see if beginning to get beter.
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Thanks GM
Will do that. Tonight he has been waking, coughing and vomiting so we'll wait and hope! More later...

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Old 29th October 2000, 07:43 AM
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Dear Deb,

First of all may I sympathise with you having a child who may be asthmatic, I myself have a four year old who has the very same condition. I must admit that I was also reluctant for my son to take steroids but he is doing fine.

Although I can well understand your concerns in taking your child to a traditional doctor i would stress as your husband appears to be also that it is very important to get this cough diagnosed correctly. It may well be asthma causing it but after three weeks (especially with the amount of fluid and vomit he is bringing up - asthmatics usually have a dry night cough by the way)it needs to be diagnosed as such.

Please, take tothe doctors, if it is diagnosed as asthma you have lost nothing except a small amount of time, if it is not then you will have avoided something which could have more serious consequences.

Please remember there are many illness' show symptoms of a chesty cough and one that lasts three weeks or more is always advised to be checked by a doctor.

homeopathy ( which by the way I believe can have great benefits)should always be backed up by advise from a traditional doctor to get the best from both

Please diagnose and then you can treat it with homeopathic remedies in the right manner. You cannot treat something correctly if you dont know for sure what it is.



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Fine to get a diagnosis provided one has the strength of will and character to refuse steroids, which are very bad news indeed.
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