does anybody know anything about urine therapy - ie. drinking one's own urine for the`promotion of health and cure of many illnesses?
my query is, how would homeopathic treatment be effected by drinking urine which is presumably a massive dilution of the original dilution?

'a massive dilution of the original dilution' Dilution of what? Urine? Urine is concentrated waste. Urea, creatinine, etc...and I can't imagine how it would be therapeutic. I'd be interested to hear more...anyone else heard of this?

The only thing I've ever heard was to wash one's eyes with the first urine (in the morning) of a pregnant woman to get rid of styes in the eyes. Never tried it though.

many people engage in the practise of urine drinking from the liest civilisations. for health and beauty, models political leaders ! (india)

here is the first part of an article which you could follow up on http://www.hps-online.com/hurine1.htm
there is also http://www.biomedx.com/urine/
and http://utopia.knoware.nl/users/cvdk/...py/index.html.

i was interested in knowing how homeopathic treatment might be effected by this practice as some of the remedy must be excreted in urine......

Introduction:

"In February 1996 the First World Conference on Urine Therapy took place in India (in May 1999 the second world conference took place in Germany).

The fact that a number of allopathic doctors also visited these conferences shows that this remarkable and sometimes despised therapy, which for a long time was almost forgotten, is coming back to the forefront. And rightly so.

Urine therapy is very effective, and it is always available and quite inexpensive, to say the least, which is absolutely wonderful in a world which sees itself confronted with increasing health- as well as financial problems.

But what is this urine therapy? How does it work? What are its roots? What has the medical world to say about it? And, not the least important, how do you go about it?

Coen van der Kroon covers almost all questions concerning urine therapy and its history in his book The Golden Fountain; The Complete Guide to Urine Therapy. (The book recently appeared at Amethyst Books/Gateway Books; ISBN 0-944256-73-2; 152 pages; illustrated; £8.95 or $14,95).

In the following article connections of urine therapy with the yoga traditions are explored.

Also practical tips are given for the application of urine therapy in daily life.

You will find more detailed application programs here. Meanwhile, the below is a reasonable starting point.

If you haven't done it yet, you might be convinced, after reading this article or The Golden Fountain book, to take a sip from your own golden nectar... If not, it's definitely worth reading anyway!



What is urine therapy? How does it work?

Urine therapy means using (your own) urine externally or internally as a way to promote or maintain your health.

The first question that probably comes to mind is whether urine is not a toxic substance and how a toxic waste product could ever be of any benefit for your health.

Well, urine is NOT a toxic waste product and this has been scientifically proven.

95% of urine is water, 2.5% consists of urea and the remaining 2.5% is a mixture of minerals, salt, hormones and enzymes. Toxic substances are being removed from the body through the liver and intestines, through the skin and through the outbreath.

The main function of the kidneys is to keep the composition of the blood in optimal balance. When there is to much water, the kidneys will remove it. But that doesn't make water into a toxic waste product.

Only the substance urea can be poisonous when present in very large amounts in the blood. However, this is irrelevant in the practice of drinking urine, as urine is not immediately put back in the bloodstream. In the small amounts urea gets back into the body, it is purifying, clears up excess mucus and has a number of specific, very useful effects. Moreover, it has a wonderful healing and tonifying effect when applied to the skin.

You can find urea in many skin products as one of the main components- specifically in many woman cosmetics.

Furthermore, urine is entirely sterile after secretion and has an antiseptic effect. We are talking here about urine from the point of view of somebody who follows a reasonably healthy diet, and who does not use chemical drugs or allopathic medicines. Urine therapy is a method based upon the principle of 'natural cycles'.

As long as we do not interfere chemically with the body's natural cycle, the body produces urine which is perfectly suitable for re-cycling. If you ingest a great deal of chemical substances - and these days all kinds of processed food contain chemicals - part of this will end up in the urine, in which case the composition of the urine changes. Normally, however, urine is a healthy substance which contains healthy, harmless and nourishing components.

Some natural cycles take place more quickly than others, but the cycle in general is the foundation of all life. If we let nature run her course, there will be no waste, and a disturbed equilibrium will always come back into balance. Just as we are capable of disturbing a natural equilibrium, we can also do our part in helping nature recover her balance. In order to support such a recovering of balance, we are equipped with a wonderful, natural 'house pharmacy': our own urine provides us with a swift and safe method for using the powers of the natural cycle.

What exactly are the effects of urine therapy?

Briefly, if urine is ingested and/or rubbed into the skin, it purifies blood and tissues, provides useful nutrients and sends the body a signal about what is in or out of balance. This last effect is called (oral) auto-immunization. This brings us to a last important feature of urine. Urine itself is, as said, not a toxic waste product. It does contain however minute particles connected with possible disease processes in the body. These minute particles are mainly antibodies, which upon re-ingesting can help the body to react on specific pathological situations.

Urine therapy has proven helpful in a great number of various diseases, ranging from a simple cold and a throat-ache, to tuberculosis and asthma, from minor skin problems such as itching, to more serious skin diseases such as eczema, psoriasis and even skin cancer.

Sorry but the only time I would consider drinking my urine would be when shipwrecked. Then it might be a way to delay dehydration at a pinch. I am not so tight that I could not let it go the rest of the time! Urine therapy has absolutely nothing to do with homeopathy.

I'd heard of this before so decided to look on internet. Searched 'urine drinking' and found it to be a porn site!!!
Tried again using Jeeves and came up with a site which actually states 'urine therapy is isopathic and homeopathic'!!!!

Like most humans(and homeopaths!) the whole thing repulses me.
Seems like a load of excreta to me!

it is obviously an emotive subject and somewhat taboo.
i do believe it has been used effectively in serious illnesses.
i wasn't asking if it was homeopathic in itself but how it might effect homeopathic treatment...

zanna, to answer your question, it would not affect homoeopathic treatment in the way that concerns you.
This is because homeopathic remedies work on the level of energy rather than a material dose. When you take a hom. remedy the tablet itself stays in your body for about 24 hours, but the action of it on you is only for a brief instant, as the energetic imprint of the medicine influences your vitality.
Since homoeopathy does not work on the physical level, the urine is not affected by any "residue" of the remedy left in it.

Yes it is called isopathy. I believe some homeopaths (not me) get the urine potenised in difficult autoimmune cases!

Talking p...

thank you