Hi Everyone
Has anyone any interesting comments on a patient with Graves's disease? very high T3 and T4 Unfortunately already treated with carbimazole and threatened with operations or radioactive iodine treatment to remove the thyroid (in 18 months time after the carbimazole). last time she took it she suffered severe malnutrition because the carbimazole affected her pancreas which meant that she was not absorbing certain essential nutrients. Her first remedy was Iodum 30 which seemed to set off the whole thing two years ago. Her parents are keen to find any alternatives

Wouldn't the chances of restoring the dynamis depend on the present level of vitality and integrity of the defence system? Often this is going to involve chronic miasmatic prescribing and avoiding serious allopathic intervention with the thyroid if I understand it right. What is your experience and understanding?

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Frank Hicks:
Wouldn't the chances of restoring the dynamis depend on the present level of vitality and integrity of the defence system? Often this is going to involve chronic miasmatic prescribing and avoiding serious allopathic intervention with the thyroid if I understand it right. What is your experience and understanding? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Dear Frank
Unfortunately this isn't my own case and I don't know even who prescribed the Iodum, but I have known the young woman for years as a friend's daughter. At this point I am wary of taking her on myself since her parents need convincing that there ARE alternatives, I agree it will take some deep prescribing. Her parents want her to finish the 18 months of carbimazole but i think personally that the thyroid will have atrophied by that time and there won't be much hope to resuscitate it. My main reason for putting this out to HH is because I wondered if anyone has any direct experience of treating Graves AFTER heavy drug treatment.

AS the resident Thyroid expert .....but not an expert in treating it homeopathically IF ONLY I WAS ........My husband started with graves disease 32 yrs ago ....2 lots of carbimazole and then the BASTARDS operated on him .....his entire life is ruined ,,,there is a 90% chance of going underactive and life on Thyroxine is a joke I am also on a Thyroid help line so I know just how bad patients get .....I only wish I had turned to Homeopathy at the outset of the Graves disease but then I was too young to know and info was not available

I am sure given a full case history and very very detailed info on the patients character and reactions a homeopath like GM can turn things around ,,,,,,,,but after surgury its very very difficult indeed

Dear ma57

I had Graves' disease for which I sought homoeopathic treatment. Unfortunately the first homoeopath I went to did not prescribe the correct remedy and my condition deteriorated so much (I felt like my heart was going to explode) that I eventually embarked on the beta blockers and carbimazole path.

However, I didn't give up at that stage and found another homoeopath who prescribed correctly for me and I was off the allopathic drugs within 6 months. It is now 3 years on and I remain free of Graves' disease. It has not returned in the way that it does all too often after a course of treatment with allopathic medication.

As Pat Davis well knows, from bitter experience, after radioactive iodine therapy or surgery the outcome is invariably that too much of the thyroid tissue is destroyed for it ever to function on its own again. The result, at best, is having to take thyroxin for the rest of one's life.

I recently did some research into the effectiveness of homoeopathy for people with hyperthyroidism (of which Graves' disease is the most common form) and discovered many positive articles in homoeopathic journals from over the years. Some of it dated back to the 1920s when the medical profession were only just beginning to learn about the function of the thyroid and homoeopathy was successfully treating people by administering the similimum!

From your posts it seems that the person you are describing is very young? To resort to a treatment such as radioactive iodine therapy for a young person would IMO be tragic. However, as far as I am aware, the carbimazole does not actually destroy the thyroid tissue but works by suppressing the amount of T3 and T4 produced. Hence the all too frequent return of the disease once the allopathic treatment is stopped after 18 months. If the parents are insistent that she finishes the carbimazole then perhaps you could suggest to them that she has homoeopathic treatment in the meantime? They could keep an eye on her thyroid levels through regular bloodtests if they feel the need for reassurance. At the end of her treatment she could continue with homoeopathic treatment to increase her general level of health thus preventing the reoccurence of the disease and avoiding any need for them to be persuaded into having radioactive iodine therapy.

I hope I'm not speaking out of turn here as I am not quite qualified as a homoeopath yet, but wanted to throw in my thoughts for
what it's worth.

All the best
Christine

Good for you Christine .....I sincerely hope your Thyroid behaves itself ....trust you know that Soya, Flouride and even Aluminium head straight for the thyroid as apparently does smoking

Also seems that Scarlet Fever in childhood is a predisposer to Auto Immune Illness

Like I said I only wish back in 1970 there had been as much info about Homeopathy around and we had not had blind faith in the Allopaths ......My husbands life is ruined and what I wish on the medics who did it is not printable

Hi Pat

Fascinating piece of info about scarlet fever predisposing to autoimmune disease. Can you point me in the right direction to find out more?

Thanks
Christine
PS Sorry ma57 to get off your main topic.

I do not know if there is any research ...but its something I have been told REPEATADLY by patients on the helpline

Also when my husband gets the "Hashimotos"attacks which include red raw throat .....Belladonna does help to quell the attack

I have also heard Rheumatoid Arthritis patients say the same about scarlet fever in their childhood

If you read Broda O Barnes he spent his entire working life recording minute details of Thyroid patients and recorded repeated ENT infections which are Streptoccocal as is Scarlet fever

Dear Pat and everyone
Very helpful information and advice which I've shared (most of) with the parents. They confirm many ENT infections in the patient. Also interestingly I remember her being particulary superstitious, following special rituals before going to sleep etc ( could there be a TB connection do you think?