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Old 14th November 2009, 01:40 PM
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Whether potentization and dilution regularily happen in our body, naturally? Excretions, reabsorptions & exposure to our sensing organs of diluted biochemicals can be common & a rotuine in body?

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[I’m wondering] whether potentization and dilution regularly happen in our body, naturally? Excretions, reabsorptions and exposure to our sensing organs of diluted biochemicals can be common and a routine in [the] body?
Not potentization, better called dynamization. Whatever actually happens to substances by potentization/dynamization, that process, which clearly produces etheric energy medicines because they’re ultramolecular (“beyond molecules”), is gotten by succession, which is strident or vigorous shaking of half-full vials of the medicine. As far as I know, that doesn’t happen in Nature and is yet another indication that we were intended to discover this so that we’re not helpless in diseases precisely because it’s so easily done and produces such extraordinary effects. That’s also marvelous, isn’t it?

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What happens to water falling down waterfalls and so on? Is that "natural succussion" in any way?
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Not potentization, better called dynamization. Whatever actually happens to substances by potentization/dynamization, that process, which clearly produces etheric energy medicines because they’re ultramolecular (“beyond molecules”), is gotten by succession, which is strident or vigorous shaking of half-full vials of the medicine. As far as I know, that doesn’t happen in Nature and is yet another indication that we were intended to discover this so that we’re not helpless in diseases precisely because it’s so easily done and produces such extraordinary effects. That’s also marvelous, isn’t it?

Kayveeh, I like the quote. Who’s S. Kh.?

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Hello Albert,

I do not deny effects, much more which I felt personally, esp. by tissue remedies. These are prepared in same containers and their lower potencies(6X) are in much use. I do feel their effects more than 80%. As such, I am bit concerned about molecules. As science people claim low molecular doses can not give much effects in view of pharmacological studies. This can justify effects due to dynamism. But there is also a sense with low dilutions or remedies with molecular presence i.e. hormesis. whether minerals moving in a running river don't potentize river water? In many religion, holy dips in river water is suggested.

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What happens to water falling down waterfalls and so on? Is that "natural succussion" in any way?
No. Have you ever seen a half-full vial inside a river or waterfall? In your dreams, pal. As far as I know, Nature simply doesn't do that.
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Still it looks that, traces of all substances esp. odd substances to body are left in body, which may take care in hormesis--homeopathic way.

Still specific water mixed with specific or diluted chemicals may act in different way--somewhat in energetic or much diluted way along with by its different reflective specturms.
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No. Have you ever seen a half-full vial inside a river or waterfall? In your dreams, pal. As far as I know, Nature simply doesn't do that.
So nature doesn't pour water with content from one container to another, and adding more water and with succussion at each step?

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So[,] nature doesn't pour water with content from one container to another, and adding more water and with succussion at each step?
Again, do you see a half-full vial there? I mean, that was a pretty simple question, so what's with the God-damned sophistry? Better, do you see any medicine? Get real! What is wrong with you people? Hurry along, Jethro.
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One problem can be there with river water. Its cantents--potentised or not, will not be specific substance but will be mixed. Moreover it can be natural to us & we can be habiyual to river water. So it may not cause dicipilined effects of specific substance which homeopathic remedies, being specific, can cause.

One important question will be:-

We take many subtances--food, durgs etc. Those can be natural & unnatural to body. It also appears that some traces of substances can stay in body somewhat as molecules stay in glass bottles. Traces of antibiotics was thought. I am not sure whether these traces will be from all substances or just few odd, unnatural or toxic to our body. Can these cause hormesis type effects which body maintain for survival benefit.
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One problem can be there with river water. Its cantents--potentised or not, will not be specific substance but will be mixed. Moreover it can be natural to us & we can be habiyual to river water. So it may not cause dicipilined effects of specific substance which homeopathic remedies, being specific, can cause.
So are you saying that river water has lots of different substances in it? Perhaps many hundreds mixed in together, not a pure MT? And that is why it is not homeopathic?

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We take many subtances--food, durgs etc. Those can be natural & unnatural to body. It also appears that some traces of substances can stay in body somewhat as molecules stay in glass bottles. Traces of antibiotics was thought. I am not sure whether these traces will be from all substances or just few odd, unnatural or toxic to our body. Can these cause hormesis type effects which body maintain for survival benefit.
I don't understand what you are trying to say here. Yes, there are trace elements of nearly everything in our bodies today, in bigger and smaller amounts. This has been so throughout history. So are you saying that if there are more of some compounds that are toxic, it affects us negatively?
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