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Old 2nd June 2000, 02:22 AM
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As there seem to be many ways of prescribing
homeopathic remedies I
thought
> I'd give my thoughts on this subject: If one
only wants to learn
one way
> of homeopathy then you can continue to learn from
one instituion or
from one
> person. You will only learn what that institution
or that one
person has to
> teach and feels that is all you need to learn or
what they are willing to teach you. If you want to
learn
> everything, you need to open your eyes and take note
of EVERYTHING
written and
> taught about homeopathy. There are many
who have alot more
> experience than you and I and have different ways of
achieving a
cure.
> Whether it be homeopaths or allopaths, everyone has
their own methods
and
> their own teachings. Just because one's cup of tea
might not be your
choice,
> shouldn't we all be open and respect it?. In allopathic medicine one surgeon
might decide the
patient
> needs an operation, the second surgeon's opinion
says there is no operation
needed. To
> achieve a cure, one feels surgical intervention is
the only way for
a cure,
> the other feels there are other options.
Personally, I feel abit
more
> comfortable with a practitioner who has recently
graduated from
studies. I
> feel a recently graduated practitioner might have more
up-to-date
information on
> antiquated methods and dealings with
"diseases" not previously known or recognized, some of
which have come about due to our modern way of living.
I also respect experience, but not from one who
can only
> see their way of prescribing and their only way of
cure. I hope everyone can respect each other's way
of achieving a cure and be open to all ways of
prescribing. By all means, if the cure may hinder the patient's recovery or
hurt the patient, let your view be heard. But one way
is not the only way.
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Old 2nd June 2000, 07:57 AM
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Hear Hear!! I believe in an open mind. What works for one should not be despised by another. I also believe in the healing effect that takes place between a practitioner and their patient before any remedies are given!! Now that should give rise to a good discussion!!
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Old 2nd June 2000, 10:02 AM
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There is only one you can learn Homeopathy from, his name is Hahnemann!
It is unheard of, that people can be openminded, when they take a product, or whatever, and distort it from the origin, into a shadow of its origin, or alter the purpose of a tool, i would like to se "openminded" people chop down a three, with a wrench......just as they do utilize Homeopathy!
Hahnemanns words about those openminded people, is" Bastardfamily"....
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Old 2nd June 2000, 03:11 PM
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Nobody's disputing the validity of other healing philosophies. The danger lies in mixing and matching, only because it usually signals a lack of proficiency or mastery of any one system. What sets homeopathy apart is that it is a scientifically validated, well-defined system. Allopathic medicine failed to disprove Dr. Jacques Benveniste's antibody dilution research back in 1988, whereby he proved the validity of dilutions in controlled, double-blind studies by independent investigators. What validates a system is concise definition, just like anything in science. Gravity didn't just occur in Newton's era; he merely defined it, and that's how you lend credence to a system. And that's how Homeopathy is so far ahead of other healing methods at this point in history.

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Old 2nd June 2000, 06:17 PM
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Hello Ricky,
You said, "I also believe in the healing effect that takes place between a practicioner and a patient before any remedies are given!!"

I have written two articles on this very subject. Are you interested in hearing them? Would you like them sent to you privately or should they be posted.
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Old 2nd June 2000, 06:29 PM
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Public relations artists, not homeopaths!
Depend on pshycologically effects, and slick appearance, and buttering up words.
This is not homeopathy, dare to speak the thruth, and do your job as a homeopath, and youl get patients..and honour!
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Old 3rd June 2000, 12:08 AM
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Dont you know whats the rigth end of a shotgun??
And if you dont know what i talk about, what do you have to contribute with, then, in a discussion about homeopathy??
Whats the point??
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Old 3rd June 2000, 01:43 AM
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GM I certainly know where the right end of a shotgun should be pointed!!! You speak in riddles and since this is my thread, you can be direct with me. Why are you so offensive to anyone here who is new and trying to come on the site and learn and contribute? I've tried to contribute, yet you attack me in every post. I've asked your advice and yet you answer me in an offensive way. I don't understand how you can open up a discussion on homeopathy if you are the only one allowed to give advice. Are not others able to learn from others?
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Old 3rd June 2000, 03:41 AM
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GM. I have more patients than I can handle, and more patience than you can handle.
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Old 3rd June 2000, 05:24 AM
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This is absurd - and Ricky - why would you want to inflame others - you don't post your email address openly for others to see...and yet, you always seem to make it known that you email those who come on the board with eclectic thinking with regards to Homeopathy.

And usually it is those who know little or nothing about the Priniciples. Shame on you - you should know the Principles - even I - as a mere student - grasp the Principles of Homeopathy - and the Laws of Cure, etc., etc.! And you should (as your duty!) try to help others to understand this - rather than perpetuating their quest for the more advanced information without the FOUNDATION!!! Shame on you!Z .

Is there some desire to have a 'following'? Hmmmmm, I truly am beginning to wonder about your motives! Also - on one hand, you make statements that seem to fall within the Principles - and on the other hand - you make strange remarks about being open minded....which is it? There is no room for CHANGING the very Principles and you know it in your heart! Why incite with inflammatory, and cleverly written posts - those who barely grasp what you took years to learn!?!!!?

Why so much political-correctness? Homeopathy is what it is - and works according to those laws rediscovered 200 years ago - you know this -and you ALSO proclaim to prescribe according to the one-dose priniciple...so why the tottering on the fence? You either stick to the Principles or you don't - which is it?

And, I understand your quest for knowledge, Herb - by all means educate yourself - but doesn't it stand to reason - that one WOULD LEARN THE BASIC tenants of Homeopathy - before venturing further into the complexities of 'variations' on the original theme? Which is most soundly based on FIXED PRINICIPLES!!!!

If you - or anyone else has something of substance to say - then say it- why all the posts saying how you email each other....sounds like children at a school-yard during play time. Honestly! If there is something of Merit - then post it! I am interested in knowledge as well - but it doesn't mean that after reading it that I will necessarily agree!

If you can't take others opinions about it - then that is your problem...think about it.

And you all keep crying - 'doesn't our opinion matter too?'- yes, but it doesn't mean that any of the rest of us have to agree with you. And if someone is vehemently opposed to what you have posted - then they also have the right to say so. That is why this is a discussion board - and if you are too thin-skinned to take the replies - then perhaps you don't have enough confidence in what you are posting!!!!

One last thing - Herb - if you can't grasp the 'riddle' - then read it again....GM is saying that you are playing with fire!

Homeopathy is not up for interpretation! This is what you DON'T seem to GET.

It is what it is - based on FIXED PRINCIPLES.
That is why GM fervently defends the Principles.

For the record - I think that what RF posted above says it all. Read that again and try to glean the wisdom there.

Why is it that in today's age - people think that EVERYTHING in life is up for interpretation. Some things just ARE. I guess people have become SO politcally correct that they fear that if they stick to what is truth - that others won't like them (puhlease!).

As for your argument that things evolve - well, yes - some things do...and some don't! Time is Time. Gravity is Gravity. Homeopathy is Homeopathy. All have Principles.

To say that one can evolve the Principles is absolute nonsense. To say that one can evolve in their understanding? Yes, one can - as one's understanding can become richer and clearer...in fact, it is tantamount to learning the ART along with the Science of Homeopathy.

By all means, read alternative ideas about Homeopathy - but at LEAST know the Foundation FIRST - so that you can make an educated estimate about what is and isn't true!

This is basis common sense in reasoning. It's called DEDUCTIVE reasoning...might just try it - and see how you THEN 'interpret' Homeopathy!

And Herb - a more recently graduated Homeopath is a baby....you're stuck in Allopathic hell - thinking that Homeopathy is ever-evolving - it is not. The only thing that evolves is our understanding of the Principles and how to apply them (this is known as the ART part )...this takes years to master - and to say that a babe out of college is better - shows your ignorance of Homeopathy.

You also asked, "Just because one's cup of tea might not be your choice, shouldn't we all be open and respect it?"

Respect what? The right to voice one's opinion? Of course - I respect that!!!

But I don't respect THOSE who perpetuate misinformation. It is irresponsible -and it is also what undermines the very integrity of Homeopathy. People that are 'trained' and then they chop and change things to suit their inadequacies - well, that speaks for itself!

Where is your open mind now? Did you shake your head two words into the sentence? Or did you try to digest what you read?

And, lastly, GM was not attacking YOU - but what you posted....that is also his right...his opinion based on facts.

I don't care if you don't agree - that is fine with me...but at least do yourself a favour and learn the Principles...then you can truly understand the fervent arguments that have ensued.

Gee - what a privilege to be able to post our views (all of us)...and I certainly appreciate all ideas posted...don't always agree - but it makes me think...and for that I thank everyone!

Lisa

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