Lisa - Re - Ian Watson and is palliating suppression. Again I must refer to those who have had more experience than me. There is a brilliant, fairly new book called The Homeopathic treatment of Eczema by Robin Logan a well known English homeopath.

"....there is much fear of suppression amongst homeopaths. While none of us can argue about the undesirability of suppression, the fear of it can cause confusion. If the direction of cure is right, the new layer of symptoms should be less limiting than the ones that have improved. That is they should impair the patient's quality of life less, and affect the vital functions and vital organs less. It would be more accurate to describe the 'symptoms of the person' that emerge during the process of cure as 'characteristics'. Obviously if an eruption disappears and the patiemt develops night terrors , anorexia and vertigo the direction of cure is not correct. However I have yet to see such an effect from homeopathic treatment."

he goes on to describe cases where the eruptions have gone and other lesslimiting symptoms emerge which he then treats. It is the layer theory, the unfolding of petals. As one layer goes another might emerge ready to be treated. When we take a follow up we are always looking for new symptoms which will indicate the next remedy but must be careful to let first remedy finish its action.

You wrote <<my only problem with any of this (regarding you) was that you seemed to encourage people (who are not trained and are not training) who don't grasp the Fixed Principles to venture out into areas that they couldn't possibly begin to comprehend without comprehensive study>>
I wasn't aware that I did this and it certainly was not my intention. Please quote an example so I can see what it is that is offending you.

GM - what can I say that won't offend you. I have to say that I was a bit offended by

<Or is it clever sucktion of the patients wallet, and covardness??
Public relations?
Destroying homeopathy??>>

If it was money I was after I would not have left a successful career where I earned far more money than I will ever earn as a homeopath. I went it to homeopathy because I cared to help people.
Cowardness - I would drummed out of The Society amd sued if I insisted that patients came off an allopathic medicine and some harm came to them . We are just not allowed to do this. I know of some homeopaths that will not take patients on if they are on medication but in the UK where there is a free National Health Service patients arrive at your doorstep as a last resort so you tend to work with what you've got and educate on the way. I don't beleive in turning people away although if I had a case that I felt I was not experienced enough to cope with I would refer to another more experienced colleague.

Public relations I don't understand and destoying homeopathy I am obviously in to.

I bow to your experience but as I keep saying the way I manage my practise at the moment is working for me and my patients. Many are discharged and that is the main thing.

I do hope there is nothing I have said here to offend you but as I keep saying I do not do it deliberately.

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Time to change to a homeopatic sosicety then..and well, the idea of dying healthy..of a false disease, its pretty good..

Herb - a straight question - do you also go by the name Yvonne?
CIB - are you a chum of said Yvonne?
Straight answers appreciated but not necessarily expected.

Ricky,
I'm not personally offended...

trust me - this is NOT personal. I just feel that we (even as students!) have a responsibility to encourage those who MUST understand how Homeopathy works - to learn it -and perhaps reccommend good books about it - depending on their level of interest, and yes, intelligence! Not perpetuate further confusion (whether intentional or not).

To go on about having an open mind or not having an open mind sends mixed-signals to people about what Homeopathy truly is.

This is not about having an open mind. Not what I was talking about, anyway...more like what is the aim of encouraging this on the BB knowing it to be totally against what Hahnemann taught?

By all means, everyone should educate themselves, if they feel the desire to! But, if they are using Homeopathy - they should understand what Hahnemann taught...not this modern mixed methods - that they could learn about later..and then make an educated opinion about!

What is SOOO dangerous are the arm-chair novices who 'think' they understand - when in reality - they only sort-of get it. Then they come here and post stuff that misleads others.

That is what I was getting at! And I don't care if this is not popular...it is preservation - perhaps purist - but still, since Homeopathy is based on fixed principles...it stands to reason, that a trained Homeopathy would hammer these truths first, rather than encourage other things that might confuse people who are not trained.... I should think this would be more for the professional discussion board - as it is closed and people wouldn't be misguided...

Also, that book you talked about may well be a good book - I don't know as I have not read it - but I hesitate (not judge, just hesitate) when a Homeopath writes a book about ONE DISEASE.....that alone gives me shivers...although it is not to say I won't read it and see if their is any wisdom there - in accordance with Hahnemann's teachings.

Your comments on whether to refuse a patient or not based on their being on medication - well, I find that very interesting - as it hadn't occured to me what I would do once qualified and practising. Food for thought! I can only imagine, though, with restrictions such as you mentioned, that it would be a tricky way to practise (being sort of trapped by circumstances, I mean). BTW, do you request that your patients stop using things like anti-perspirants,etc.?

Anyhow -I appreciate the civil discussion - and I can promise you that none of this was the least bit personal....

best regards,
Lisa

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The Logan Eczema book I recommend too - it's worth having.

Anna,

No. I apprieciate the freedom this BB gives with the diverse personalities and views.

Perhaps I can have a peek at lunch??
Lisa


PS...I was wondering that very same thing myself in regards to your other post!

I agree with everything you say GM but I am obliged to show that I have produced a list like this!!! It is called , believe it or not "giving the patient the responsibility of his actions" or to quote Melissa Asilem "re-empowering the patient"!! Incidently I have never had any patient antidote in these ways.

Anna - A straight answer to your question. I do not also go by the name "Yvonne". Who is this person "Yvonne"? You have made mention to this in something I read in another case. As my name, Herb, was used previously as a user name I was informed I needed to add numbers to my user name. Would it satisfy your inexcusable paranoia if I were to list my acquaintances on the BB? But, then again, I would not like to subject my friends to your review.

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