I just posted the following at HerbDataNZ.com because they were talking about homeopathy and spagyric medicine. I don't wanna explain it to them and don't really have the time to do so, so somebody else please post the previous postings that precipitated the following, for I don't want to again get entangled into trying to explain homeopathy to seventy-twelve gazillion people who're clearly too lazy to do it themselves and are too brainwashed and many of whom apparently even need new brains. Explain it to them, and be careful what you say, okay? I love the Kiwis, and babes with that accent make me drool, but be sure to tell them to shut up about homeopathy until they're actual Hahnemannians, because I'm sure they won't listen to me. "I think we're all bozos on this bus" (The Firesign Theatre).

PS. Administrators, where's the function to post quotes? The following needs it, so fix it, please. God bless!

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Dear Members,

I got here from Googling "aude sapre" to check my spelling, and lookie, lookie what I found. People are talking about homeopathy and spagyric medicine who don't have a clue. Please don't talk about stuff you don't understand and especially not the 25th-century medicine called by those two names and two previous ones, for you'll just confuse people and adulterate the truth. I'm all for people being sincerely motivated, but it's undeniable that the most wrongheaded errors foisted on the human race have come from sincere but misguided people.

Specifically, spagyric medicine has nothing to do with botanical medicine (phytotherapy), and I don't care how many morons say it does. It was clearly homeopathy in the Way Back Machine and was destroyed by the evil Pauline Church by the God-damned Jesuits, Lutherans and Calvinists. In fact, Hahnemann invoked the guys in his first, formal presentation of homeopathy to the world called Essay on a New Principle (bla bla bla). It's in The Lesser Writings somewhere in the middle of that long report. It's quite amazing that homeopathy is as old as known civilization and was clearly brought by both the ancient Egyptians (as Hermetic medicine) and those of the ancient Rama Empire (as an unnamed manifestation of homeopathy) when they settled in their transposed homelands from their previous civilizations, and yet it also belongs to the future. Connect the dots, and ketchup!

Please don't talk about this subject. Read me at Homeopathy Home - The Net's best homeopathic resource, but please shut up about homeopathy until you know what you're talking about. It will take you 25 years to do so, so please commenceth to awaith opening your mouths about it again, okay?

God bless!
Albert (7/16/08)

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Albert, also Hahnemannian444B

I came back to see if anyone posted that discussion from New Experiment. Noppy, Doppy, but I see that the site is pooped out, offline or went back to the Moon. Maybe somebody dropped a planet on their heads to get them to be quiet about this, huh? That's Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy humor when it struggles. I'm posting only to keep this thread alive and will delete this [have since changed my mind after posting more here than intended] when the site again opens up so that somebody else or me can pull it in here.

Believe me, you don't want to make such big mistakes about homeopathy because they compound into everything else, and this one where seventy-twelve gazillion bozos online claim spagyric medicine was herbal medicine really irks me because it's simply not true. For instance, the spagyric physicians (and my avatar is what those guys looked like, which was dearly and intentionally chosen for that reason) said that their medicines took advantage of the quinto essentio (the "fifth essence," or etheric energy pattern of things), and that in itself means they used ultramolecular drugs and thus did homeotherapeutics, but they also applied and precipitated all 10 natural laws specific to medicine and unique to homeopathy. It's a mirror image of homeopathy for 1001 other reasons, too, so it's simply not true that it was part of "hydra-headed allopathy" (Hahnemann). Ridiculous hogwash!


God bless!


PS. I looked at what they call the "Spagyric Pharmacy" and found them invoking and quoting Paracelsus. Okie, dokie, boys and girls, listen up. The legitimate spagyric physicians called Paracelsus "a braggart and quack" (Basil Valentine). Paracelsus was an allopathic physician in its Empiricist spectrum, which is today referred to as the so-called "alternative therapies." He was a proto-Initiate to the Rosicrucian Brotherhood who amalgamated the disparate secret societies of his day, but he was not a spagyric physician. Alchemists came in three stripes.

The legitimate alchemists were the spagyric physicians. Another group used the jargon of the alchemists to hide their secret communications and teachings from the Church, who tortured and burned people at the stake for any variance with the insane doctrines of Pauline Christianity, which was as illegitimate then as it was when it began among the monophysites and as wrong as it is today in 80 million variations of total corruptions of the uncompromising Christ. They were Rosicrucians, Hermeticists, neoPlatonists, neoPythagoreans, Kabbalists, the Knights Templar, the descendents of the Essenes and dozens of other small groups with secret associations to teach the truths of existence with their particular assignments to speak to or appeal to and assist in the Egoic advancement of the seven basic personalities of humanity -- one for each arcane association no matter how many secret schools or incarnant representatives they may have had at any given period of history. Paracelsus amalgamated them during the high point of the vile Inquisition under the Jesuits and the equally evil Reformation under the insane Lutherans and Calvinists. I love those people, but they were not spagyric/homeopathic physicians, and I love them today even though they're all moronic allopathic physicians who can't defend what they think, say and do involving medicine. It's a mystery to me why they constantly invoke the Laws of Nature and yet ignore those involved in medicine, but that's allopathic brainwashing for you. Even the legitimate Scribes of the Brotherhoods didn't know anything accurate about medicine. You explain it to me. Indeed, it's very difficult to discern the legitimate Scribe(s) for the Hermetic Brotherhood because they also fall into this calculus due to ridiculous ignorance about medical matters despite the fact that Hermetic medicine was also homeopathy in the Way Back Machine. Personally, I learn toward Hahnemann having been an Initiate and homeopathy being the most objective manifestation of the Hermetic teachings even though all things involving its Great Truth of precision (e.g., engineering, architecture, etc.) are also manifestations of it.

The remaining group of alchemists were the total bozos who dabbled with chemicals by literally interpreting the jargon of the alchemists and thus attempted to turn lead into gold. Wrongo, bozos! Nonetheless, chemistry came out of that dabbling, and John Dalton, the Father of Chemistry, was a Rosicrucian and thus the only person to bridge that chasm between total morons and the proto-Initates and actual Initiates like Paracelsus. I find that fascinating.

The legitimate spagyric physicians referred to their medicines as taking advantage of the "quinto essentio." That's Latin for the "fifth element" and thus the Ether, the Etheric Plane of existence, etheric particles and, most especially, the etheric energy pattern of cogent bodies no matter how big or small -- everything has one. They thus very clearly used the ultramolecular medicines of homeopathy and hence knew the simple techniques of homeopathic pharmacology. Moreover, they utilized and precipitated all 10 natural laws unique to medicine and specific to homeopathy. They knew all of our polychrests. No matter where you look, spagyric medicine was homeopathy inside and out. Isn't that interesting? Connect the dots, and ketchup!

While I'm at it, having invoked Basil Valentine, I hold that Moses was a Hermetic physician who cured over one million barbarians during the 40 years that he showed them the whole of the known civilized world throughout the Fertile Crescent and as far East as Kashmir. His "manna" rather clearly refers to homeopathic medicines. Bread doesn't fall from the sky, Jethro. You watched too many cartoons and the idiocy of Hollywood, so pull that feces [they didn't like the word cra*, so I used the proper one] out of your brain and ketchup! It literally means "whatzit." Put yourself into the mindset of total morons 4000 years ago who were barely civilized by a concerted attempt to teach them trades and professions and the arts of civilization during 400 years in Egypt, which was only barely successful because they were so arrogantly moronic that they refused to accept they were wholly uncivilized, and you easily find them using such a term for the miraculous effects of seeming nothings in little powders and pellets. Moses was a Hermetic physician, and Hermetic medicine was homeopathy in the Way Back Machine. In fact, spagyric medicine clearly developed out of it after the insane Christians sacked Alexandria in A.D. 393 and murdered everyone and burned and destroyed everything throughout the Fertile Crescent over the next 150 years, so the Hermetic physicians ran for the hills into "Rome," meaning Europe. They hid in monasteries right under the noses of the archenemies of Truth, mostly working out of Byzantium and the ancient Polish Empire -- most successfully in the latter. Moses was actually, however, a High Adept (almost a Master) who incarnated with a specific mission to fulfill an important prophesy in the Great Pyramid of Giza marked by that date where the two passageways converge. He had to fix those barbarians, so he obviously prescribed for over one million people. Isn't that interesting? This should be obvious, so please ketchup!

God bless!

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Albert, also Hahnemannian444B

Tell me more about Moses please

H444 .. "If you are not part of the answer .. then you are part of the problem"; .. as the late Buckminster Fuller so succinctly put it. I hear your pain just as I heard it in the Herbdata Forum .. your pain is not my fault .. our health freedom, is under attack and it is essential that the rainbow therapies in all of their diversity .. present a united front to the common threat i.e. Pharmageddon.

If you consider the tremendous damage that the orthodox system has wrought, then as a movement we need to courageously pull against this ever encroaching tide of cancer and auto immune diseases. Save the brickbats, as a sign of your resistance to Pharmageddon .. and your compassion for the victims.

Let me get back to your hogwash remark .. my understanding of your alternative explanation .. is that we are speaking of different epochs .. I am speaking of the Western Tradition in such matters .. esoterically and scientifically.

Those epochs of which you allude .. I have scant knowledge .. but yet sufficient for a fortunate glimpse .. of the threads, the shuttle and loom .. that have woven the tapestry of the Western Aesculapius cloak. It is our tradition .. take it or leave it.

In addition you have cast a slur on a great Australian Homeopath 'Brad Miller' take a look at his work in the Herbdata Forum .. (When I get it back up and working ) .. there you will find a man who is putting something back .. sharing his knowledge and involved with a community farm .. a man well versed in the Bio-Dynamic Philosophy and its connection to Homeopathy .. I think you owe Brad an apology. So please connect your dots .. use a napkin and remove the ketchup from your chin.

Ivor Hughes a.k.a. Paxman.
Herbdata New Zealand.

The stuff about Moses is a pet theory I've been working on for over 20 years. I don't know what more there is to it.

As for your response, I didn't understand, so I repeat the basic facts. Spagyric medicine had nothing to do with herbal medicine because it was pure homeopathy, and herbal medicine is just as much allopathic medicine with the very same fundamental mistakes as modern medicine. We don't need association with any allopaths, and it's actually a sin to do so since they are also part of the iatromega-genocide rampant in our times. If you fancy I'm wrong, ketchup.

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Albert, also Hahnemannian444B

Hey Albert - I post to the herbdatanz site on Homoeopathy, tissue salts and a few other subjects of interest to me. It seems peculiar that you spend SO much time talking in riddles and circles. I'm up for constructive criticism, I make mistakes so please please teach me.

Its often the case that the theoretical practitioner of any art is critical of all and any. Talk straight and make some practical suggestions for all to benefit from.

As you well know Paragraph 1 of the Organon of Medicine states:

The physician's high and only mission is to restore the sick to health, to cure, as it is termed.



His mission is not, however, to construct so-called systems, by interweaving empty speculations and hypotheses concerning the internal essential nature of the vital processes and the mode in which diseases originate in the interior of the organism, (whereon so many physicians have hitherto ambitiously wasted their talents and their time); nor is it to attempt to give countless explanations regarding the phenomena in diseases and their proximate cause (which must ever remain concealed), wrapped in unintelligible words and an inflated abstract mode of expression, which should sound very learned in order to astonish the ignorant - whilst sick humanity sighs in vain for aid. Of such learned reveries (to which the name of theoretic medicine is given, and for which special professorships are instituted) we have had quite enough, and it is now high time that all who call themselves physicians should at length cease to deceive suffering mankind with mere talk, and begin now, instead, for once to act, that is, really to help and to cure.


What do you reckon Albert?

Brad

He quotes me and inserts comments within it in red, probably knowing that they won't be able to be quoted, so I'll deal with it.

I said: Aren't demonstrations of illiteracy to the level of the 3rd grade by supposed scholars interesting?

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Albert, also Hahnemannian444B

I talk in riddles and circles? I’m so much in your face about things that it disturbs most people, but there’s no choice where life and death are concerned, for any compromises of the Truth in this realm endangers life and sanity and precipitates chronic diseases (of which psychiatric maladies are a part). Likewise, I bend over backward to avoid being ambiguous and am an extremely precise person. I therefore reject that characterization of my writing. Maybe you don’t enjoy how I endeavor to have fun no matter how serious a subject.


Okie dokie. Hahnemann said it best at the very beginning of homeopathy on p. 241 of THE LESSER WRITINGS in the closing passages of a letter to a German Royal, passages we‘ve come to call “The Good Family Physician.” The relevant passage is where he advises choosing a physician “who is not silent respecting the merits of his colleagues.” Most people miss it, but that necessarily also includes their lack of merits because life and sanity are at stake. We do not, however, like to break up this wonderful description of the character of the physician (the only one I know of), so attend to those passages relevant here and be amazed by what are probably the first words in homeopathy:

“Search for some plain man of sound common sense [UCD = unnecessary comma deleted] who takes great pains to ascertain the truth of all he hears and says [emphasis mine] [UCD] and does not merely look to its passing muster, who knows how to give clear and condensed information respecting everything that belongs to his art [UCD] and never obtrudes his opinion unasked or at an improper time, and who is no stranger to everything else important for man as a citizen of the world to know [emphasis mine]. More especially[,] let the man you choose be one who does not show temper nor get angry [UCD] except when he beholds injustice, who never turns away unmoved from any except flatterers, who has but few friends but these men of sterling principle, who listens attentively to the complaints of those who seek his aid [UCD] and does not pronounce an opinion [i.e., does not prescribe] without mature reflection, who prescribes but few, generally single, medicines in their natural state, who keeps out of the way until he is sought for, who is not silent respecting the merits of his colleagues [nor, by implication, their demerits because life, health and sanity are at stake – stipulation mine], but does not praise himself; a friend of order, quiet and beneficence.

“And when, my prince, you have found such a person, as is not so very difficult now-a-days, no one will rejoice more than

Yours, etc.,
S.H.

“PS. One word more! Before you finally fix on him, see how he behaves to the poor [UCD] and if he occupies himself at home unseen with some useful work!”

It resulted from an unknown German prince asking Hahnemann what to look for in a personal physician. The prince was, however, secretly looking for the best physician in the world to cure raving insanity in Duke Klockenbring of Hanover (apparently not a pseudonym, unlike what I’ve previously posted here because it’s such a goofy name). Hahnemann was asked because he was the leading medical historian, scholar and translator of the day as well as a leading pharmacologist -- called medical researchers today. In fact, his PDR-like reference was the standard work of the day. In short, everyone in medicine knew who Hahnemann was, so he got asked this question. Hahnemann got the job the next spring and cured the duke. To this day, psychiatrists still can’t cure any psychiatric maladies, big or small let alone the most difficult of them all: schizophrenia. The case report that immediately follows these passages is magnificent in the extreme. I have dozens of very long footnotes that explain passages and comment on others. Read it, and I’ll easily explain anything you don’t understand. It never ceases to amaze me that the very first published case report in homeopathy is very possibly the most difficult case.

Of course, his extension of the life of Prince and General von Swartzenberg (or something like that) would rank higher even though the man didn’t live because we are today so frequently asked to lift people out of the grave after allopaths have abandoned people to die, but Hahnemann didn’t publish it. He instead got blamed for the man’s death and was forced into exile. Everyone is complicit in mass murder by simply patronizing or merely listening to allopaths, so try to tell me why we should not despise everyone and not allow them to destroy themselves and their Souls as intended by prophecies to free this planet of the 12 billion low-grade Egos who’ve made it Hell on Earth for the past 26,000 years and finally leave it only accessible to reincarnation by Saints so as to precipitate the Kingdom of God on Earth by November 2998. Personally, it’s a problem because they all obviously have to go, and even the three sets of Higher Beings want them gone. We can only attempt to preclude the destruction of 12 billion Souls by providing them information that allows them to increase their mentation, but so few accept such gifts and attain class-A thinking status of clear and independent thought. You have to test everything and hold only to what proves good and true, but most of humanity is totally servile, complacent, selfish, ignorant, brainwashed and brain damaged (from premature cutting of the umbilical cord) for us to expect the under 1% of class-A thinkers to increase. As it is, were there not special provisions in place to assist those who ignorantly opt to embalming, those 12 billion low-grade human Egos are going to be total loses. Nonetheless, the fact remains that they have to get off of this sacred planet of life, and it could only happen by their own hands and ignorance of the truths of existence, so we can’t change that except in the few who’re ready for the complete reformation of personally entrenched views necessary for the assimilation of Truth, for it’s quite obvious that mere class-C and class-B thinkers (90% & 9%) are satisfied with endlessly wrong conclusions from a few basic erroneous assumptions. They like being followers and leaders who mislead, and they‘re all bottomless karmic pits unwittingly resonant with Hell. All we can do is attempt to increase the mentation of others by providing information that allows them to do it themselves, but 99% of humanity clearly likes endless half-truths and lies, so I simply don’t care anymore since it’s impossible to care about people who don’t care about themselves. Wisdom 101.

So, of course I’m critical of all other therapists because they’re self-admitted quacks unable to cure 99.999% of the deadly diseases in industrialized societies, who further admit they create all of the chronic diseases and psychiatric maladies they can’t cure and finally admit that they kill all of their patients. People are so brainwashed that they don’t even notice these three astonishing admissions. That’s just pitiful and pathetic. We’re witnesses to the mass murder of nearly 100 million people every year. Don’t talk to me about being critical. If it were up to me, and if we were even remotely civilized, all other physicians and everyone in the power structures would be burned at the stake! Why don’t any of you people have a sense of social justice, anyway? You can’t claim ignorance at the proverbial Heavenly Tribunal, for God is not unjust, and we judge ourselves, anyway. Six and one-half billion people are in serious threat of losing their Souls this lifetime, and it will continue until the other half have also transitioned through their last lifetimes. When societies eventually adopt the 9 ancient Laws of Economy, all of those people will be immediately exiled as criminals, and everyone else will have to live with the legacy of nothing but criminals in their family tree. That’s just pitiful and pathetic, so I prefer to avoid it all as a homeopath.

Article 52 of Hahnemann’s ORGANON OF MEDICINE makes very clear that all other therapies are just part of hydra-headed allopathic medicine:

“There are only two principal therapies:

"The first, based in every respect exclusively on the exact observation of nature, and on scrupulous experiments and pure experience – the homœopathic method, never wittingly used before me, and

"The second, which does not do this: the allopathic (or heteropathic) method.

“They are directly opposed to each other, and only someone who does not know either could be fool enough to suppose that they could ever approach each other or unite, could make himself so ridiculous as to treat homœopathically one moment and allopathically the next to please his patients. This is a criminal betrayal of divine homoeopathy!”

As for the so-called tissue salts, everything about them is allopathic. You’re only familiar with people who use our drugs in allopathic ways, so you don’t know anything accurate about homeopathy.

Finally, I don't like you quoting Hahnemann one bit since you obviously don't yet understand either his thought or that of any Hahnemannian, so stop it, please. The footnote says that we don't need people endlessly engaging in sophistries and obscuration with allopathic prattle, so stop it, please.

PS. I simply posted these two out of order, so fix it.

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Albert, also Hahnemannian444B

Well there you have it. A reply from Albert. A man well versed in vitriol. Glad your not my Homoeopath..... but what would I know, small and overshadowed by that huge personality and intellect, sophist, hahnemannian and all round nong - Hahnemannian 444.

Good on ya Albert it's good to get what you expect.

best
Brad