Am posting here since chi kung (the healing branch of t'ai chi) could, I think, be considered to be a valuable part of Chinese medicine & also, admittedly, I couldn't find another, more suitable, board.

One thing I've noticed is that, after taking a homeopathic remedy, I often get a few small red spots springing up near my elbows, usually at around the time I feel my reponse to the remedy kicking in (between 3 -7 days after taking it). And, until recently, I've basically just put it down to a peculiarity of my own responses to homeopathic remedies. Interesting but probably not significant.

Now though, after practising chi kung for around 18 months, I'm starting to pay more attention to my instuctor's comments regarding energy blockages often being near the joints. And I wonder whether the spots around my elbows emerge when blockages "unknot" in response to remedies. And whether it might be possible to get a similar response to taking a remedy by working on the energy body through chi kung.

Another weird example. My chi kung instructor remarked about 2 months ago that I have a major energy blockage at my right hip joint and that I should work on this. Well, before I even had time to work on this I took a homeopathic remedy and developed kind of a nappy rash right over this joint (plus felt better emotionally too).

Could homeopathy and chi kung be working on the same level, and are there any other patients or practitioners out there who have any experience of this?

Well, never did hear from anyone regarding this.

However, still feel that the practice of chi kung and the homeopathic approach to wellbeing have much in common. My chi kung practice has been underpinned by practising taoist meditation and often seems to lead me to the same places within myself that I find I regularly touch upon after taking a homeopathic remedy.

Noticed with interest Ian Watson's book "The Tao of Homeopathy" which the author states is "intended to serve as a bridge, linking the philosophies and practices of homeopathy and taoism". Plus many of my chi kung teacher's comments about the body's energy system wouldn't seem out of place on these boards.

But, of course, I am a novice at all of this. Any more experienced practitioners out there who have made similar connections?

Hi Jennilee

I think most healing therapies work on energy including homeopathy.
I believe our 'potentised' (energised) remedies resonate with the body's energy field to bring about healing.
Of course it is much more complicated than that but not being a quantum physicist I can't explain it scientifically!

Interestingly I use to work with Osteoporosis patients in the NHS and Tai chi was recommended to them by the National Osteoporosis Society especially chi kung (sorry if that is mis spelt ) The patients used to have to imagine being a tree feeling energy coming up into their bent spines from the earth.

I don't know if any studies were done on this but it would make interesting reading I'm sure!

Hi Jennilee,

Have you ever red any of Mantak Chia's books on Taoism? There is one very good book called Awaken Healing Energy Through the Tao and it is essentially all about Qi Gong and clearing energy blockages in your system using these methods.

The Zen School of Shiatsu in London has a website that you might be interested in looking at. This contains a link to what they call the healing Tao and it has details of Mantak Chia's books and courses that you can take in Daoism. They run Tai Chi courses too and it contains lots of fun information. There are also books for sale and lots of other things. The Shiatsu website is good too.

http://www.learn-shiatsu.co.uk

Thanks Folks!

Yes, I've noticed that the NHS is taking chi kung/tai chi more seriously these days & my local PCT has been funding courses for heart patients plus primary schools. I think the exercises are fairly basic though and the full benefit probably wouldn't be felt. There's lots about "standing like a tree" in Lam Kam Chuen's "Way of Energy" book, which is one of the more easily accessible for a beginner.

Not come across Mantak Chia but will ask my teacher about these books. Sounds good!

Only downside seems to be that clearing blockages can take years - I'm so used to hearing the old story about, well, it's taken you 40 years to build up these imbalances, it will take probably as long again to clear them.

Nevertheless, it's at least very relaxing so something with which I'll persist.

Hi,

If you want to clear blockages quickly, then I would suggest that you try some craniosacral therapy. It will clear blockages and move you forward extremely quickly as long as you are ready to go there.

I'd probably have to think long and hard before trying any other therapies (for example, nutritional therapy, Chinese medicine, western herbalism, Edgar Cayce packs have already gone the journey, so to speak) but will look into craniosacral therapy.

It would be good to hear from other patients who feel they have benefitted from this. My experiences with homeopathy have shown me that it's best to be an informed patient and have personal recommendations if at all possible.

Within my chi kung class there are several more experienced people who will all advise treading carefully when it comes to energetic forms of healing (some bad experiences of "homeopathy" and "reiki" for example, although I believe that the practitioners involved, though qualified, were relatively inexperienced). Have even heard of some bad experiences from practitioners of chi kung (usually those using the fire rather than the water method). So I now think that it's not even adisable to simply go to whichever regulating body or society is relevant and do a search on qualified practitioners - might not be sufficient, especially in the case of serious chronic diseases.

I'll have a fish around for further info, though.

Thanks

Hi,

I discovered craniosacral therapy as a patient first and have had many positive experiences with this. I was very lucky though. I took the time to find a therapist and I got it right first time. I cleared lots of stuff very quickly with this and it was right for me. Homeopathy would have done the trick but not as quickly. I soon discovered that using homeopathy and craniosacral therapy together was even more powerful and is a great combination. I was "led" towards taking a certain remedy in a certain potency that would then bring things up and then allow the cranial work to clear them. This has happened on many occassions, where I have just had an intuitive feeling or been led towards a particularly remedy that has then allowed me to clear certain issues with a cranial treatment.

I felt that this therapy was so powerful that I then went off and trained in it myself. I studied for two years at a college in London, but have also done some courses with the Upledger Institute in the UK.

To look for registered practitioners look at the CSTA website or the website of the Cranio-Sacral Society, which is the Upledger equivalent.

Good luck

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Interesting Stuff!

It always seems to me that a certain amount of luck is involved, though, in finding a therapy (or indeed a practitioner) which is "right for me". It would be nice to reduce the all-too-frequent feeling that patients are very much in an ongoing experiment in which they turn this way and that trying to find a therapy which suits them.

Much was made of "intuitive feelings" by my first homeopath and, although they were often quite valuable and insightful, I think that equally often the remedies prescribed were a bit too wide of the mark and didn't contribute to my overall healing process. Plus I'm afraid I just haven't been able to tune into my own "inner guide" and get a feeling about whatever is right or wrong. Sometimes I've thought I could but, over the years, I think it's become clear that I was perhaps being rather fanciful and overly optimistic. Hard for me to decide where genuine perception ends and gullibility begins....

I suppose what I'm wondering is whether, for example, tai chi and homeopathy can be truly complementary or whether, given that they both work on the energy body, it is possible for one to counteract the other. And whether, on that basis, patients (especially those, like myself, who only have a little knowledge) should beware?

It's immensely gratifying to know that the material world isn't everything, but just wondering how a patient can make the most of the various possibilities without also running as much risk of making time-consuming mistakes as life-enhancing choices. Bit of a conundrum and I wonder whether the answer for most patients is to stick to homeopathy alone and avoid experimentation.