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Old 3rd September 2003, 12:32 AM
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Neither should be too low.

Every diet needs essential fatty acids and complex carbohyrates. Omit the wrong kind of food and eat the right kinds of fats and carbos.

Cut out only the bad fats and the refined carbohyrates to live healthier and happier.
Example:
-depression, MS and hormone deficencyies like PMS [persecute my spouce] ( ) maybe caused by the deficiency of the right fatty acids.
-obesity is often caused by refined carbohyrates. ( )
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I thought this might be of interest to several people based on previous discussions.

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Which Is the Healthiest Diet -- Low-Fat or Low-Carbohydrate?


Medscape Cardiology
08/25/2003
J. Willis Hurst, MD, MACP


The lines of battle have been drawn for some time. The low-fat diet, long accepted as the standard approach to weight loss, has been increasingly challenged by the low-carbohydrate diet. The ongoing battle tells us that we still don't know with certainty what to eat.

The late Dr. Atkins contributed to the fray: Without his marketing of the low-carbohydrate diet, there would be no new studies on the subject.

The results of 2 such studies were reported in the May 22 issue of The New England Journal of Medicine.[1,2]

Samaha and colleagues[1] compared the effects of a low-carbohydrate diet vs a low-fat diet in obese patients. They reported that severely obese patients on a low-carbohydrate diet had lost more weight at 6-month follow-up than patients who ate a low-fat diet. In addition, they found that there was improvement in the level of triglycerides and insulin sensitivity. It should be noted that this study is severely limited because it lasted only 6months; the long-term value for such a diet was not established in this study.

In the same issue of the journal, Foster and colleagues[2] reported the results of a randomized trial of a low-carbohydrate diet for obese patients. They discovered that obese men lost more weight in 6 months eating a low-carbohydrate diet than those who ate a conventional diet, but at 1-year follow-up, there was little difference between the groups in the amount of weight lost. The low-carbohydrate diet did achieve a greater improvement in some of the risk factors for coronary disease, however.

The battle between the diets has not been settled. In the meantime, it seems prudent to limit caloric intake, exercise, reduce fat and carbohydrate intake, eat fish 2 or 3 times each week, eat nuts such as walnuts, and consume plenty of fruit and vegetables.

J. Willis Hurst, MD, MACP, Active Consultant to the Division of Cardiology, Emory University School of Medicine, Atlanta, Georgia; Candler Professor and Chairman, Department of Medicine Emeritus

Medscape Cardiology 7(2), 2003. © 2003 Medscape
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Samaha and colleagues[1] compared the effects of a low-carbohydrate diet vs a low-fat diet in obese patients. They reported that severely obese patients on a low-carbohydrate diet had lost more weight at 6-month follow-up than patients who ate a low-fat diet. In addition, they found that there was improvement in the level of triglycerides and insulin sensitivity
It can be a important study and can form a reasoning for the benifit in Insulin Resistance. Sometimes back I written to diabetic association that if controlled fasting or withdrawl of some carbohydrates can benifit in Insulin Resistance which I feel can be possible. However their reply was that it has not yet proved.
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Here's some interesting food for thought:

http://www.westonaprice.org/know_your_fats/banting.html
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"Being overweight has affected a small proportion of the population for centuries but clinical obesity was relatively rare until the 20th century. Indeed obesity remained at a fairly stable low level until about 1980. Then its incidence began to increase dramatically. By 1992 one in every ten people in Britain was overweight; a mere five years later that figure had almost doubled. In the USA it is even worse: by 1991 one in three adults was overweight. That was an increase of eight percent of the population over just one decade despite the fact that Americans spend a massive $33 billion a year on “slimming.”

It may be hard to believe, but this has occurred in the face of increasing knowledge, awareness and education about obesity, nutrition and exercise. It has happened despite the fact that calorie intake has gone down by twenty percent over the past ten years and exercise clubs have mushroomed. More people are cutting calories now than ever before in their history yet more of them are becoming overweight. There is now a pandemic of increasing weight across the industrialized world."
These details out of the article may indicate that Obesity may be increasing parallel to Diabetes and other metabolic disorders or vice-versa. Few days back my friend who lives in big city went to one religious place which was very natural. He is diabetic with high lipids and was taking very low diet. But he told he could had there, 3 times all sorts of diet. Inspite of that he felt much better and after coming back he got tested. Surprisingly, his lipid and sugar tests were improved and he remained energetic for some time. I think we are taking deficient diets in cities which is causing deficiencies and diseases and still obesity.
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There is a very interesting book called "The Metabolic Typing Diet".

It states that there is not the perfect one diet which works for every person, but instead every person has to find out his/her metabolic type first and then he/she will be able to eat a diet working for him/her.

I took the test in the book and so did my parents and my boyfriend and we all had different results. It opened our eyes and we now understand why my father shudderes every time he sees me eat (I am clear protein type and he is a clear carbohydrate type).
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Bettina,
Carbohydrate and protien types seems to be intresting. Can you please tell some more about this aspect i.e. Type of persons.

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Kayveeh,

26 pages of the book can be read here:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...er#reader-link

And more information can be found here:

http://www.metabolictyping.com/
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Bettina,
Thanks for the links. It is intresting to note that modren diseases like diabetes,obesity,heart diseases,hypertention,arthritis etc.which are spereding like epidemics are unknown in some remote regions of world which are still following old & natural systems. I think in older M.Ms only few mentionings are there against these diseases which indicate that these may not be so prominent in that time.
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