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Old 27th February 2003, 04:04 AM
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I'm posting this to get the advise of those with more experience with homeopathy. My son (3.5yr)has a planters wart on his toe. What is recommended for treatment? We went to the doctor and they froze it. However three weeks have gone by and I suspect that it is not going away. Before go to get that painful treatment done again I thought I'd ask all of you for advise. thank you
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Old 27th February 2003, 04:55 PM
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1) That wart, as any sort of warts, in homoeopathic experience clearly points to the fact that something is not right with the whole body system, even if it may be the only thing you can notice at this time.

Please do NOT try any form of local treatment, be it "standart/conventional/allopathic" medicine, no matter what method they may use, including any form of ointments; or be it any other locally applied stuff, any herbal, traditional, exotic, Chinese, magic, or otherwise tincture, ointment or what not.

"Warts" ring a bell for anyone who has any knowledge of homoeopathy.

Have you ever been searching for mushrooms in a forest or meadow ? - No, I am dead serious, as you shall see. You may remember you learned then that mushrooms have the habit to regrow, if you cut one above the surface ( and you were told then by your nature-loving aunt "don't harm the roots, so they give us another mushroom to eat also next season...!", were you not ? ). How come ? - They have an extended underground network growing in the soil, and what grows above the surface is just one part, the one visible to us, or to non-biologists, right ? And that feature makes them so nice, both for consumers and for their role in Ecology (trees live in close cooperation with them, a mutual-benefit partnership, really nice to watch...).
Now do you sense what I am aiming at, former temporary biology teacher that I am ?

Yes, now translating this image into a negative case, see these little warts as part of a disease-underground-stuff-and-above-surface-signs network. What happens if you cut them, or if you make them disappear by any (bio-)chemical or physical means ? Yes, sure, the "mushrooms" are going to come back, and you can count on that. So it is pretty worthless. And you cause that pain in vain. You can also apply "nastier" methods, with sort of "punishing" that spot in the body so severely that no mushroom will come up there again; sure. But "nastier" it will also be for the well-behaving body tissue around. Plus the warts are going to laugh into their little hands ( those babies still underground and waiting ) and say "come on, mates, there are funny ones; we are moving to the next body part instead" - and there you can await them.
Meaning: what is wrong inside can not and never ever be put right by some local "treatment" outside.

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Old 27th February 2003, 05:27 PM
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2) What you should do:

See the little warts as your and your family's friends. No, I am not making fun on your cost, not at all! Just keep reading my terrific lecture: because your friends is what they are.

- Because, as I mentioned, it means there is "something" not completely right, inside; that "something" can be inherited.

- And the warts tell you: look, here we are, we are the sign posts where you can read a lot of info about your ( child's ) current plus inherited health condition.

- Now you should thank them for this service they are doing to you, buy them an ice cream or something to keep them happy, but do not aproach them with such brutal thing as freezing cold. Save the child those tears and it will thank you, both now ( pain spared ), and in the long run ( see below ).

- And if you or anyone insists they must be removed, then you are removing the sign posts.

> That is the stupid old "we are going to shoot you ugly messanger" style of thinking. Because, sure, you then will not have to face the message.
Does that mean that the thing is gone which was described therein ?
Like if your are living in some settlement, community, village, town district; and at some point someone has erected a message board: Your information on current affairs and state of health ( financial, societal, environmental etc. ) of your yx community. And you read some ugly things. "Oh, I can't stand that message, vanish it must from the sight of my eyes etc.", and smash the thing. So it is now unreadable. - Society got healthy again ?

- Now sure warts are not a sign of vibrant beauty. I mean as a child I was very fond of "wart-hogs" ( African Savannah wild boar species, sympathic indeed ), but nowadays I'd rather embrace and caress smooth skin, no doubt !

- Point is the "conventional medics" mean no evil, sure. They just do not see the connection. They see the mushrooms, and if they are stinking or unpleasant ones, they remove them, with good intentions. And are not aware of any network. Plus - and here we are leaving the mushroom natural image - in the homoeopathic way of seeing things, the mushrooms may indeed be absent for a while, be it through removing, or on their own development/ disappeared.
-->> BUT
- and that is a very big BUT, close to the core of what is the greatest thing about homoeopathy -
the "evil forces" are then
reassembling in the underground,
and coming back,
with reinforcements,
in another unexpected shape,
at an unexpected spot and time.

> And then, my dear parent you are likely to be in trouble, and wishing to exchange the new thing for any number of the good old tiny innocent warts, I promise you.

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Old 27th February 2003, 05:48 PM
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3) I remember one teriffic medicine-seen-with-a-new-perspective book, I think from one Australien guy, the title was something like
> "Love your disease, because it keeps you healthy".
That stumbling about the title phrase is of course intended, and I wished I had invented it, because it is so good. You need quite a while to digest this, no doubt, but if you ca finally get yourself to understanding, absorbing and accepting this kind of viewing things, it is sheer beauty, because it all makes sense suddenly.
- Or how come "all people in your country are radiating such degrees of vibrant beauty, with the highest per capita spending on so-called health care in the whole world ?" -

No, this is not esoteric, New-Age-y or otherwise "spiritual", it is just a beautifully clear way of seeing things with eyes less-blind-than-before.

The point is: what the body produces, all symptoms you can perceive, including all nasty things, like skin stuff, fever, discharges, even strange behaviour often, has got a sense. It is intended to
(A) Tell "Hey you, my body-owner human/animal, we've got a problem, will you notice please, and act in a health-supporting way ?! - and/or
(B) An attempt ( no matter how successfull or not ) to "cope with" the situation that the body finds itself in.

If you do not recognize (A), you will have to pay for it later.
If you disrupt (B), then you hinder the body to do what is intended to be good for it. So its condition is likely to deterioate later on.

>> That is a wise one, your body...
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Old 27th February 2003, 06:08 PM
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4) Now to homoeopathy:

If you tell some conventional medic about "that theory you were told recently, which says that things like warts point to some disturbance in the whole of the body, somewhere deep down, somehow..." -
Sure, you are doing them a great favour: they have not had a good laugh like that for a while, with all there working routine and all-pervading competition. They will thank you for that good joke.

Point is they do not see the ( little ) patient they are treating now, in say a 20, 40, 60 years. And are not accountable for the long-term consequences. Since all their colleagues also will not see any connection between some local or systemic problems and diseases now, and then later, and then later again, and finally what leads to death; apart from some vague general phrase like "was always in good/poor general health, pretty unspecific.

What homoeopaths see is the very opposite:
Namely, they do see such connections, between what happens now, and next year, and in 5, 10, 20, 40, 60 years, and in generations to come of ancestors and offspring. They see that all linked. No, not in some spiritual, religious sense ( or that is there private thing - homoeopathy as such is neutral in this regard ). It is in a very sober, rational, observing, evidence-based, clear-eyed scientific, medical sense. Only different from the medical mainstream. And also surpassing what you learn in biology lectures, on genetics, evolution, etc, which is all interesting and important as well. And they see a whole picture, body and mind inseperable, body parts not un-connected, as conventional medical practice often sees it in effect, and that time dimension I just described.

-->>> The most important thing in homoeopathy is not the technique of healing, the remedies they found, the way they prepare and manufacture these remedies, the power to heal acute and even epidemic ailments: all these are wonderful and terrific, sure.
But the greatest gift, beyond everything else in medicine, is this insight into the complex dynamics of Chronic Diseases.

// In your case:

That wart is not nice.

But it must stay.

And your homoeopath can use it as his/her "sign-post". That was my point, if s/he is really good, with actual insight into that chronic diseases ( CD ) chapter, and good experience in that field, that will guide her/him/them, they can use it to assess progress, they can use it to choose remedies.

But please understand that this is far beyond self-prescribing.

And please, please, please DO NOT collect a bag of ideas here what sort of remedies may make a wart go away, or use some pocket book for the same purpose instead, and then try them all on your child, most-well-intentioned mom that you are, like, pardon me, experimenting on a rabbit, what effect will have this or that ?

Because you are spoiling the picture, likely.

Because homoeopathy is like an expensive tailor's work, it must fit the one individual as well as possible, and in chronic things also demands having a good and coherent long-term strategy in mind.
And warts DO point to a baggage of elements of chronic disease which are some day going to come to the surface in a way you do not wish for.

In hom. reference works there are whole pages about warts. All sorts, all shapes, all types, all locations, all details are important. Plus seeing them together with whatever else they observe in the child.
That is why this cannot be done in a forum place like this.

I very much wish you to understand that homoeopathy is a thing that demands very high skill, training, experience, dedication, no less than any other branch of medicine, no less !

It is not, it is not, it is not just some alternative nice plant remedies thing, some variant of "Hobby herbalist tell you over the garden fence what my aunt XY always used to take for her caugh/excema/warts..." sort of thing.
If you assume that, and act accordingly, you are in effect ridiculing those - with or without medical degree, there are good and poor ones in both category - who are working very hard over decades to become real masters of some degree.

It can be so misleading, because these are so little spots, just warts, or even one, just "for a while", and small children, all may look like "little effort" etc.

But because these warts are pointers, and what lies beneath is not a trifle, but if you heal the whole body now, it can spare you so much trouble later. And children need the highest skill, precisely because so much is at stake, it is decided if they get a good start into life, as far as health is concerned, now, or not, and every suppression
( remove warts, give antibiotics in not-really threatening situations, making fevers go away,, making ANY skin trouble, rash, excaema go away with ointments, unnecessary vaccinations, surgeries in many cases, the whole quick-fix-a-pill-for-everything-get-the-machine-running-again style etc )
>>> will not make things go away on the deep level which finally counts, but postpone the necessary healing to some later day. And can often speed up developments into the wrong directions.

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Old 27th February 2003, 07:09 PM
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5) __Conclusion:__

So please do not take seemingly small things lightly.

The best homoeopath, to consult in your location or region, and who is available for time to come, is what you need.
And "homoeopath" means a really good, strictly "classical", serious, give-one-dose-at-one-time-after- most-careful-casetaking-then-wait-and-watch type, it is the best "investment" you can make, even in purely financial terms, if calculated over a whole life time. The do-it-yourself-style is out, because it is not up to the task.
See, I am on one very good homoeo-mailing list ( not an English language, that one ), and they often discuss cases, in painstaking detail, and a lot of mails on "warts", and what they point to, and how to classify, and how to interpret in homoeo-CD terms etc.
If you are trying to do the same here quickly, you are about to mess up things.
Sorry for being blunt, but that was my reason for writing all this. I spotted two cases today on this forum, both children, trying to find a quick self-help solution, and sensed in a moment what was brewing there; plus preparing one other thread for readers' information, and collecting some ideas on one questioner's case who wrote she was considering suicide because of what brutal thing she had to suffer for years; and all that made me spend a complete day in front of this screens, because I thought I could not pass by all this with knowing eyes. I hope at least it did help.
Homoeopathy is such a great effective, sometimes almost magic appearing thing, but ONLY if it is honoured as the great most difficult art that it is. That was my point.

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Old 28th February 2003, 05:01 PM
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6) __Adendum__

BTW: The spelling which you asked for in your header is
> "Plantar wart/s" ( also called: "horny wart/s" ).

But as I tried to explain in my last sequence of epic pieces yesterday, in homoeopathy please do not choose a remedy yourself or on forum advice just for one or a few symptom/s, but please do yourself, your child, and me the favour and get top quality homoeopathic long-term health care.

I hope at least my pieces are read some day ...
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